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I just found this picture on FB from a dealer in Germany.
There are wider tires available for the compacts. For me it's a puzzle why pretty much all the manufacturers put those ugly cutting wheel on on the North American market.
And I bet wider tires will not void any warranty.
 
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can you post the picture ?

depends what you want I guess a narrow tire give you more traction but yes it cause ruts ... I would think the same I wouldn't think it affect warranty...
 
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To add wider tires to your machine might mean getting new rims and wheel spacers.
 
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I just found this picture on FB from a dealer in Germany.
There are wider tires available for the compacts. For me it's a puzzle why pretty much all the manufacturers put those ugly cutting wheel on on the North American market.


Approximately 90% of compact tractors are sold with Loaders in North America, where much land is still unused. Loader tractors are usually sold with six-ply R4 industrial tires to support heavy front loads.

Kubota produces Loaders and Backhoes for their world-wide tractor sales in Georgia/USA. If you order a Kubota Loader in Germany or Brazil it will originate in Georgia/USA. Pretty much demonstrates how North American centric Loaders and Backhoes are.
 
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I added wider AG tires without changing rims.
Depends on how much wider you are going.

Rims have recently increased in price because of surging steel prices, but used rims are plentiful
 
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I just found this picture on FB from a dealer in Germany.
There are wider tires available for the compacts. For me it's a puzzle why pretty much all the manufacturers put those ugly cutting wheel on on the North American market.
And I bet wider tires will not void any warranty.
Are you referring to the R1 Radial tires? Yeah, most importers actually set up the tractors with those tires as standard. Even on the 25 HP tractors, however, it's usually only the rears probably due to the lack of availability of that size of radial tires.

Another advantage of the R1 Radials is that usually comes with front width adjustable rims instead of only the rear ones.

Honestly, had the US adopted the R1 Radials on smaller tractors before the R4's and I'm pretty confident that they wouldn't care about the R4's at all. Turfs, on the other hand, are still good for those tractors that spend like over 90% of the time on lawns.

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Not a Kubota but here is a better view comparison:

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Approximately 90% of compact tractors are sold with Loaders in North America, where much land is still unused. Loader tractors are usually sold with six-ply R4 industrial tires to support heavy front loads.

Kubota produces Loaders and Backhoes for their world-wide tractor sales in Georgia/USA. If you order a Kubota Loader in Germany or Brazil it will originate in Georgia/USA. Pretty much demonstrates how North American centric Loaders and Backhoes are.
I thought so also until looking at the R4 tires on my B3350 and L6060, all of which are 2 ply, both F & R.

SDT
 
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Approximately 90% of compact tractors are sold with Loaders in North America, where much land is still unused. Loader tractors are usually sold with six-ply R4 industrial tires to support heavy front loads.

Kubota produces Loaders and Backhoes for their world-wide tractor sales in Georgia/USA. If you order a Kubota Loader in Germany or Brazil it will originate in Georgia/USA. Pretty much demonstrates how North American centric Loaders and Backhoes are.
No it won't. The "OEM" loaders you get in the US, stay in the US/Canada. The loaders sold here are made by someone else in Europe and sometimes, not always, just get painted to the tractor color and will have that tractor brand stickers on it.

If you order a new tractor with a loader, it won't have a loader right away. The owner will choose what loader manufacturer he wants and it will either be installed at the dealer or the tractor goes straight to the loader manufacturer to get installed. Picture below shows the tractors right at the loader manufacturer location.

There are some very rare cases that the dealer bought a lot of "OEM" US made loaders somewhere but again, very rare and also not very cost effective as those "OEM" loaders are crazy expensive for what they offer.

Not too long ago, Kubota actually signed a partnership with MX loaders, a French loader manufacturer of offer OEM loaders in Europe: Kubota announces OEM partnership with MX - Kubota

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Kubota Canada is selling Alo loaders on the bigger tractors. I think it starts with the M series. The loaders are also called M.
 
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can you post the picture ?

depends what you want I guess a narrow tire give you more traction but yes it cause ruts ... I would think the same I wouldn't think it affect warranty...
Now I realize the picture didn't come along.
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M7-171 Loader SN.jpg


Serial number plate on my M7-171 loader. Tractor was built in France, mated with loader built in Georgia. Loaders installed on M7s sold in Europe are quite possibly sourced in Europe. Plant in France I worked at for 3 years was about an hour from the Kubota factory. We built machines identical to those same models built in USA. Components like engines, hydraulics, gearboxes were common sourced. Fabricated parts were made in country. Not cost effective to transport with local fabricators are available.
 
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I ordered a set of wider fronts for my M7060 from Miller tire. They are even wider than the factory radial option. Came with new wheels. So much better than the old pizza cutters, and the new tires handle heavy loads in the FEL much better. I have the 84" bucket and can grab a full bucket of road base and not worry about the tires squatting. Much better for working on wet ground too.....
 

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