Why do you hate MTD?

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   / Why do you hate MTD? #131  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I'll say it again, B&S IS NOT a part of MTD manufacturing!! Your statement is still FOUL!
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I would bet on the fact that the Briggs motors used on MTD products are (MTD spec) only. You will probably not see the exact same engine on a non MTD product.

Here is my theory

It probably goes something like this. We (MTD) will buy 100,000 of 10 hp motors only if you can build them for x dollars each. Briggs cheapens them up to get the contract. They probably don't worry about it because the don't expect the equipment to last 20 years any way.

Maybe some of The small equipment dealers would know better than me
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #132  
For example you can buy a whole 16 hp lawn tractor at walmart for less than I can buy a 16 HP motor. Something has to be different.
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #133  
Hey Cummins,

Man I'm with you, count me in, cause I sure do Hate My MTD Mower. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I've been using mine for 17 years now, and the blasted thing just keeps on going. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

All my Neighbors have nice shiney new mowers now,, but I still have to keep using my old,, 17 year old MTD mower. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I just really do Hate MTD. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #134  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( For example you can buy a whole 16 hp lawn tractor at walmart for less than I can buy a 16 HP motor. Something has to be different. )</font>

Bri Guy, I think you got it right. I had bad luck with two MTD products, before I knew they were both made by MTD. Then word of mouth from others with bad luck with MTD was enough to make me stay away.

Do I "hate" MTD? No. Will I buy MTD products? No.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!

Moon of Ohio
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #135  
For example you can buy a whole 16 hp lawn tractor at walmart for less than I can buy a 16 HP motor. Something has to be different. )
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If I went to a manufacturer and wanted a price quote on 100,000 small engines I believe I would get a very good price. Most seperate small engines that are sold are sold at near retail price.
Ben
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #136  
<font color="blue"> I would bet on the fact that the Briggs motors used on MTD products are (MTD spec) only. You will probably not see the exact same engine on a non MTD product.

Here is my theory

It probably goes something like this. We (MTD) will buy 100,000 of 10 hp motors only if you can build them for x dollars each. Briggs cheapens them up to get the contract. </font>

Hey BriGuy,

I totally agree with your THEORY . And I TOTALLY and PASSIONATELY HATE MY BRIGGS & STRATTON 12 HP/IC Engine that is also 17 years old, and isn't smokeing or using excessive oil. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Other than OIL & AIR FILTER CHANGES, I haven't had to do a thing to the engine and I really do hate it. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I'm totally with you man and have truly had bad luck with mine, because all my neighbors have gotten at least one and some have gotten up to 3 new machines over the years and I still have to keep using my OLD,,, 17 Year OLD MTD . /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I Totally and Passionately HATE MTD. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Have a nice day,
Joe /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #137  
Joe, I'm not responding to your post, just the thread in general.

Can someone please enlighten me as to the constructive purpose of this thread? It seems to me that those who have had good luck with their MTD's are not going to be convinced otherwise and likewise for those who have had bad luck with their MTD's. What gives?
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #138  
I can understand the:

MTD Cub Cadets aren't as good as the old Cubs

MTD Bolens aren't as good as the old model Bolens

Other than that they are just a box store brand. How much do we expect. I did have an MTD that was a hand me down from my dad. It worked great.

What surprizes me is that no one has mentioned Murray. Are they built by MTD. The MTD I had seemed to be built tougher than the Murrays you can buy at Wal Mart. I worked at Wal Mart during my college days, 1987-90. During spring and summer we had Murrays returned constantly. I saw front axle ripped from the bottom of the frame. They were practically a disposable lawnmower.
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #139  
Can someone please enlighten me as to the constructive purpose of this thread? It seems to me that those who have had good luck with their MTD's are not going to be convinced otherwise and likewise for those who have had bad luck with their MTD's. What gives?
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I suppose the only constructive purpose taking place in the thread is self justification. Or maybe to learn how to convince the wife that we have to buy a 4,000 lawnmower instead of a 1,200 one /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Ben
 
   / Why do you hate MTD? #140  
What surprizes me is that no one has mentioned Murray. Are they built by MTD.
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The last I heard on this Murray is still Murray, not MTD or AYP.
Ben
 
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