Spiffy
Veteran Member
And I wasn't going to get sucked into this... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Note sure if the blue font took on the 4 points I'm responding to:
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<font color="blue"> </font> 1*This practice is deceptive or at least misleading to consumers.
2*By using badges which imply that their product is something it's not.
3*I found it to be just the opposite of that.
My MTD Wards PowerCraft with mower deck cost $1300.
My Real Bolens (before MTD got a hold of them and trashed them) cost $728 including the mower deck; and was ten times the tractor that the PowerCraft is.
4*The proper thing for MTD to have done was to continue production of the tractors wearing the badges
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<font color="black"> </font> 1. Of course it's deceptive... just like the consumer "wants" [give me a CC or JD for the "Walmart" price; I don't care how you do it]. Anybody intelligent enought to be on this forum is probably sickened by great names on lesser machines, but....to "hate MTD", they have to be more deceptive than JD, craftsman, etc.
2. Again we're all disturbed by what the big corporations are doing, but you can't hate them for doing what a bunch of moronic (but very lucrative) consumers are asking for.
3. The econimcs of inflation, material, etc makes this one enough fodder for another thread if not another site, but one thing should be mentioned: the average consumer is no longer drawn to simple & ruggged, they want sleek looks and "bells&whistles" (some of which are really nice), but this adds price or subtracts value somewhere else (i.e construction).
4. Oh do I wish for an honest world where things were proper and where nameplates still meant something. In many cases (maybe most) the quality line [granted few real "workhorses" are left, refer to 3] wasn't dropped, instead they expanded the cheap end. But to answer the title of this thread, is MTD more deceptive than JD or Craftsman, etc?
Your not going change corporate until you change 75% of the consumers... I've tried to no avail, so instead I just relish in the fact they're the ones paying for the nameplate on my [better quality] machine!
Chad
Note sure if the blue font took on the 4 points I'm responding to:
<font color="blue"> </font>
<font color="blue"> </font> 1*This practice is deceptive or at least misleading to consumers.
2*By using badges which imply that their product is something it's not.
3*I found it to be just the opposite of that.
My MTD Wards PowerCraft with mower deck cost $1300.
My Real Bolens (before MTD got a hold of them and trashed them) cost $728 including the mower deck; and was ten times the tractor that the PowerCraft is.
4*The proper thing for MTD to have done was to continue production of the tractors wearing the badges
<font color="blue"> </font>
<font color="black"> </font> 1. Of course it's deceptive... just like the consumer "wants" [give me a CC or JD for the "Walmart" price; I don't care how you do it]. Anybody intelligent enought to be on this forum is probably sickened by great names on lesser machines, but....to "hate MTD", they have to be more deceptive than JD, craftsman, etc.
2. Again we're all disturbed by what the big corporations are doing, but you can't hate them for doing what a bunch of moronic (but very lucrative) consumers are asking for.
3. The econimcs of inflation, material, etc makes this one enough fodder for another thread if not another site, but one thing should be mentioned: the average consumer is no longer drawn to simple & ruggged, they want sleek looks and "bells&whistles" (some of which are really nice), but this adds price or subtracts value somewhere else (i.e construction).
4. Oh do I wish for an honest world where things were proper and where nameplates still meant something. In many cases (maybe most) the quality line [granted few real "workhorses" are left, refer to 3] wasn't dropped, instead they expanded the cheap end. But to answer the title of this thread, is MTD more deceptive than JD or Craftsman, etc?
Your not going change corporate until you change 75% of the consumers... I've tried to no avail, so instead I just relish in the fact they're the ones paying for the nameplate on my [better quality] machine!
Chad