Why do you hate MTD?

[BRIGUY]

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[BRIGUY]

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[BRIGUY]

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[GerardC]

Brian:

Not for nothin', but all you've mentioned or shown is past history. Times change and so do the designs, styles and materials (of everything), not to mention the global economic factor.
You'll NEVER get the quality/longevity of your grandparents refrigerator today, period.

 

[GerardC]

I forgot to mention companies too!

 

[BRIGUY]

Many good names like Cub, Bolens, and Troybuilt are gone forever. But some have survived Here is a machine almost unchanged for 30 years.

http://www.toro.com/home/tractors/classic300/3158.html

wheelhorse was sold to AMC in the 70's then bought by Toro and has some how survived.

I always chuckle a little when I see Cub Cadet. The Cub Cadet used to be a model in the International tractor line, as was the Cub (larger).

I know they are at the top of the MTD food chain but I can't help but wonder if the new Cubs will still be going 30 or 40 years from now.

The reason that I showed those old machines is to prove the point that others have described above. That the average buyer will equate the MTD built unit with the same name and colors on it, as being the same quality much sturdier origional.

I'm sure the reason many dislike MTD is that they are cashing in on these old quality names. That is not saying that there products don't provide a good value for the buck. The machines shown above probably cost more back then than a new MTD now. I would respect them more if they marketed all of there products under their own name.

 

[LBrown59]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The reason that I showed those old machines is to prove the point that others have described above.
1*That the average buyer will equate the MTD built unit with the same name and colors on it, as being the same quality much sturdier origional.
2*I'm sure the reason many dislike MTD is that they are cashing in on these old quality names.
3*The machines shown above probably cost more back then than a new MTD now.
4*I would respect them more if they marketed all of there products under their own name.
BRIGUY
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1*This practice is deceptive or at least misleading to consumers.
2*By using badges which imply that their product is something it's not.
3*I found it to be just the opposite of that.
My MTD Wards PowerCraft with mower deck cost $1300.
My Real Bolens (before MTD got a hold of them and trashed them) cost $728 including the mower deck; and was ten times the tractor that the PowerCraft is.
4*The proper thing for MTD to have done was to continue production of the tractors wearing the badges; but they chose to drop production of them and used the badges to stick on their lesser quality products in order to sell more of them easier and faster.

 

[LBrown59]

1*The mechanics that worked on your briggs were not good small engine mechanics, or they would have identified the problem and corrected it.
2*The only other possibility is that something you were doing was causing the engine problems. i.e. bad gas, water in gas, low oil, etc..
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1*Some design flaws and lemons can't be corrected I believe my MTD falls under this.
2*When you take in to the shop and they clean the fuel system and fill the tank with new fresh gas and you bring it back unload it and mow for an hour or so and it goes right back to doing the same thing how could it be a bad gas or a water in gas issue?
I did not do any maintenance of a poorer quality on the MTD than I do on any of my other equipment and they never give me such problems as the MTD does.
As far as the low oil issue you can't run it low as it keeps increasing the level on the dipstick.
The tractor has always bellowed blue smoke from the exhaust when first starting.
It has done this from the day I got it and first started it.

skinderflirt

 

[slowrev]

1*Some design flaws and lemons can't be corrected I believe my MTD falls under this.
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A good small engine mechanic would have found this. There is a cause for everything, no mystical lemons that cause unfindable problems. Engines can be replaced.

Ben

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( no mystical lemons that cause unfindable problems )</font>
You must have never owned a Fiat... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif