What's your average mpg?

[Gem99ultra]

Just moved across the country. My truck, a 2020 Tacoma, got 22 mpg originally. Now it gets about 18 mpg. The wife's car, a 2016 RAV4, got 31 mpg before; now about 23.

I had several cars, all stick shifts, that got 45 to 50 mpg. One got 55 mpg at 55 miles per hour on a 1000+ mile trip.

The mileagle on the RAV4 begs the question - Why the big drop?

 

[MossRoad]

But with electric rates at 43c (Hawaii) or even in the low 30s (CA, MA, NH, CT) that math make less sense. Triple or quadruple the electric rate and you are right back back in ICE range.
With your Tesla numbers and $0.35/kWh the cost becomes $0.1155/mile or right about 29 mpg at your posted $3.359.

Gas was $4.78 in Hawaii yesterday, so maybe run the numbers for that state?

 

[reb]

The mileagle on the RAV4 begs the question - Why the big drop?

Near as i can figure, the drop is due to the vastly increased number of stop signs and lights here. The town is very hilly, but we were in the Arizona mountains, living in a small town. When we get away from the city, the mileage goes back to about what it was before.

 

[Eagle1]

Gas was $4.78 in Hawaii yesterday, so maybe run the numbers for that state?

Sure Hawaii average electric rate is $0.44 per KWh and gas $4.78

24369.84 kwh×.44 per kwh = $10722.7296
$10722.7296 ÷73848 miles = 0.1452 per mile
$4.78 ÷ 33 mpg = 0.1448 per mile.

About 33 mpg is your break even point on pure cost per mile in Hawaii. I know there are other costs.

EDIT look like the average rate in Hawaii dropped to $.4246 per kwh
and gas is up slightly.

Current Avg.

$4.793

$4.989

$5.243

$5.726

24269.84 × .4246 = 10304.9741
10304.9741 / 73848 = 0.1395
4.793÷35 = 0.1369

So between 34 and 35 mpg to break even...

 

[scootr]

Average gas price in Los Angeles is $5.43 ...glad I'm not buying much of that.

 

[kozal01]

Please post a review of your Bronco in a new thread.. We like our 2019 ranger which has promoted us to look at them.

It was the Bronco Sport which is based on the Escape platform, I assume you're talking about the larger version based on the Ranger. I liked the Sport a lot though, was a cooler version of my Escape. It was fun to drive and handled well. Only put about 3,000 miles on it though before I had to turn it in.

 

[Grumpycat]

But with electric rates at 43c (Hawaii) or even in the low 30s (CA, MA, NH, CT) that math make less sense. Triple or quadruple the electric rate and you are right back back in ICE range.
With your Tesla numbers and $0.35/kWh the cost becomes $0.1155/mile or right about 29 mpg at your posted $3.359.

You can not buy gasoline for $3.359 where the electric rates are $0.35/kWh.

Tesla Solar is quoting $26k installed for a 10kW PV system. That will pay for itself pretty quick at $0.35/kWh. And you can make your own EV fuel. Just try to do that with an ICE. Lots of work to make ethanol but a PV system just runs and runs.

 

[Eagle1]

The math for Hawaii says it 34.5 mpg to break even with average electric and gas prices today.

True about PV but was does that size system cost?
I'm just doing the math, for me an EV could work but would steel need a truck to haul hay, feed, etc. However on less than 4000 miles a year for non hauling miles the up front costs are way to high. Last new to me vehicle was 5K going on 10 years ago.

 

[Grumpycat]

Sure Hawaii average electric rate is $0.44 per KWh and gas $4.78

24369.84 kwh×.44 per kwh = $10722.7296
$10722.7296 ÷73848 miles = 0.1452 per mile
$4.78 ÷ 33 mpg = 0.1448 per mile.

About 33 mpg is your break even point on pure cost per mile in Hawaii. I know there are other costs.

EDIT look like the average rate in Hawaii dropped to $.4246 per kwh
and gas is up slightly.

Current Avg.

$4.793

$4.989

$5.243

$5.726

24269.84 × .4246 = 10304.9741
10304.9741 / 73848 = 0.1395
4.793÷35 = 0.1369

So between 34 and 35 mpg to break even...

The math is easier using 0.33 kWh/mile.

0.33 kWh/mile × $0.4246/kWh = $0.140118/mile
$4.793/gallon ÷ $0.140118/mile = 34.20 MPG$

 

[Eagle1]

The math is easier using 0.33 kWh/mile.

0.33 kWh/mile × $0.4246/kWh = $0.140118/mile
$4.793/gallon ÷ $0.140118/mile = 34.20 MPG$

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