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/ Whatever you feel like thread. #491  
We have to pull humidity out of the air. Dehumidifier runs frequently just to keep it down to 50% indoors. A little less in 'winter'.
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #492  
We have to pull humidity out of the air. Dehumidifier runs frequently just to keep it down to 50% indoors. A little less in 'winter'.
I run the dehumidifier in my cabins utility room pretty much nonstop in the humid summer months up here.
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #493  
Winters in my experience it's the opposite. The cold winter air is dry.
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #494  
We keep a cast iron "tea pot" on the wood stove. Add another pot when needed on the really cold days (by our standards)
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #495  
We keep a cast iron "tea pot" on the wood stove. Add another pot when needed on the really cold days (by our standards)
I need to find one of those. I do like to think the overpriced imo heat powered fan helps spread the moisture lol. I do Run the electric powered squirrel cage fan on backside of stove occasionally also.
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #496  
I just use a. Old pot of Water putting it on top of wood stove next to the mostly aesthetic but cool functional heat powered fan. Went from 10% humidity in my cabin to a more comfortable 40% just have to remember to fill the old pot and the larger pot you use the more moisture it puts out.
Works pretty well on any stove without a convection top, but many modern stoves won’t allow it due to convection tops running too cool. I can actually sit my hand on top of my stoves when they’re running with the blowers.

The amount of humidity you need to generate, and the ability to get it done solely with a pot on the stove, is going to depend on size of the house and where you’re drawing your make-up air. Those with an outside air kit (OAK) on their stove will have better success with this than those drawing make-up air from the house, which must be replaced with outside air.

Most over at hearth.com who’ve tried this on their radiant (non-convective) stoves over the years report that the pot on the stove rarely generates as much humidity as they need, but these are also likely folks not running OAKs on their stoves, or with larger spaces requiring more heat and thus more total air volume up the flue.

We run 3 humidifiers, which consume roughly 30 gallons of water per week trying to hold near RH = 50%, but I’m running two large stoves without OAKs in a very large and inefficient house. I could make the pot on stove trick work if I removed the convection decks from my stoves, but I think I’d still have trouble evaporating that volume of water from two or four pots of water.

We have to pull humidity out of the air. Dehumidifier runs frequently just to keep it down to 50% indoors. A little less in 'winter'.
It’s a problem unique to heating climates, especially those running combustion sources (oil or coal furnaces and boilers, or wood stoves) from air taken out of the home. The combustion plant draws air from the house, so the house has to draw new cold air in from outside. But then you have to heat that outside air, which drives its relative humidity toward zero.

Our house runs 17% - 19% without humidifiers running 24/7 during heating season, and it’s supposedly a “damp old mud-stacked stone” house. :ROFLMAO: My barn and music studio both hold closer to 30%, as their heat pump heating sources don’t draw combustion make-up air from the heated envelope.

Winters in my experience it's the opposite. The cold winter air is dry.
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/ Whatever you feel like thread. #497  
Oh, just realized some might not know what a convection top is. Quick explanation:

Most old stoves are a cast iron or steel box, designed to radiate heat into the living space. Radiant heating works by transferring energy (heat) to high-mass objects in their line of sight, just as the sun heats your skin on any sunny day. Those objects absorb the heat, and the air in-between all these objects stays warm by stripping that heat off every object in the room (mix of conduction and convection).

But there are several problems with this type of stove design. First, it drives the required clearances way up, as radiant energy flux density is highly dependent on distance, and any object placed close to the stove will overheat and burn. Second, any energy radiated into masonry that’s connected to outside or earth, is mostly lost. So putting such a stove into or in front of a fireplace means throwing away a lot of your effort into heating your back yard or the earth under your house.

So stove manufacturers started adding a “convective jacket” around stoves. Initially this was in the form of rear heat shields, the idea being that air can pass between between the firebox and the outer heat shield, to strip off heat (convection) and keep the outer shield cooler than the firebox. This reduces its radiation, and allows you to place the stove closer to the wall behind it.

Then came the “alcove problem”, with many customers wanting to put their stove into an alcove with a lowered ceiling. So manufacturers responded with adding convection decks to the top of the stove, again just a second plate of metal above the firebox, thru which air can be blown or flow naturally, to reduce radiation from the top of the stove and increase transference into the room by convection.

Realizing there were advantages to convection in applications like concrete basements, stone houses, and stoves stuffed into fireplaces, some stove manufacturers have put convective jackets around the entire stove, excepting the front glass. This is how my stoves are built, since each of mine sit inside a large cooking (aka “walk in”) fireplace. Whereas my old stoves did a great job of uselessly heating up the stone in the fireplace, only to have it radiate outside in some vane attempt to warm this part of eastern Pennsylvania, the new stoves direct nearly all of their energy into our house.

Conclusion: Radiant stoves work great in framed and insulated houses, but fail in uninsulated stone houses or concrete basements. For these latter applications, look at convective stoves.
 
/ Whatever you feel like thread. #498  
We run conventional humidifiers at our house down state after the second humidifier Ion our conventional furnace bit the dust again. My cabin up north is about a little less than 1000 square ft. another thing I learned is when burning wood in our wood stove up there is keep the bedroom doors closed during the day or the upstairs rooms get to hot and uncomfortable. Since I'm talking about wood stoves these temp gauges I installed on wood stove really help me to keep it safely regulated using stoves damper one on stove one on pipe.
 

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/ Whatever you feel like thread. #499  
Great humidifier hack if you burn wood most folks that burn wood probably know this but maybe some don't instead of buying an overpriced not very durable and expensive maintenance prone humidifier filters I just use a. Old pot of Water putting it on top of wood stove next to the mostly aesthetic but cool functional heat powered fan. Went from 10% humidity in my cabin to a more comfortable 40% just have to remember to fill the old pot and the larger pot you use the more moisture it puts out.
Oops my bad it's 35%humidity and a very comfortable 74 degrees burning wood only. I really like to boastfully brag about what I designed and built up north 😂.
 

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/ Whatever you feel like thread. #500  
Yep. I also drive by flue temp, to some degree. I have a surface-mount one on single-wall stove pipe on one stove, and a probe type on the double-wall pipe on my other stove. Since they’re catalytic stoves, I also have a cat probe thermometer on each. One has a very tall flue, so I added a key damper and magnehelic to that one, to dial draft down appropriate to conditions.
 

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