Whatever you feel like thread.

[tacticalturnip]

The quiet factor is the single most appealing aspect of electric equipment, for me at least.

I love my new Cub, as does my 13 year old, but it's noisy!

 

[ArlyA]

We were unloading a truck and trailer so I mowed about 1/2 our yard with those parked in the middle since I don't like working in tallish grass. I was down some hills and backed out but the ego didn't seem to spin. As stated earlier we reduce the tires PSI modestly and I thought the ride was fine today. Do like that the stick controls are adaptable.

 

[tacticalturnip]

It is a fairly heavy machine with the batteries in, right? That has got to help with traction, along with the increased ground contact from the lower PSI.

 

[ArlyA]

It is a fairly heavy machine with the batteries in, right? That has got to help with traction, along with the increased ground contact from the lower PSI.

Z6 weights 410 pounds without the batteries

 

[tacticalturnip]

Z6 weights 410 pounds without the batteries

That's fairly hefty, about what a residential lawn tractor weighs. If I recall, you said it had 6 batteries? That must add another 100 pounds.

 

[WinterDeere]

Z6 weights 410 pounds without the batteries

That’s crazy light. Way different from the Greenworks I tested.

Greenworks tries very hard to hide the obscene weight of their mowers, you won’t even find it in their manuals or specifications, which makes sizing a trailer for two of them awful hard. But Google summary lists the weight of their standard 60” (most common commercial gasser size) at almost 4000 lb.

By comparison gas-powered commercial 60’s weigh around 1200 lb.

Greenworks should list the cost of a new 10k or even 15k lb. trailer in their cost-savings graph, since nearly every landscaper I see around here is hauling two 60” zero turns on a 7k lb trailer. That’s not going to work with any pair of 3861 lb. Greenworks mowers.

 

[EddieWalker]

I was probably the last person to buy cordless tools. I'm slower then most people at changing to new technology.

There are several things that I really like about a battery lawn mower. No engine noise, no gasoline to buy, and now I just learned that there isn't any belts to turn the blades.

My Scag is throwing one or both belts almost every time I start to use it. It happens once, and after I put them back on, I grease the three spindles with the blades on them, and it's fine for the rest of the day. New belts and new springs haven't made it any better. I just bought a different type of grease, so maybe that's it.

So what I'm really liking about the idea of a battery lawn mower is not having any belts to deal with!!!! When the Scag finally takes its last breath, I might have to consider battery power.

Do you just plug it into a standard 120 volt outlet? How long does it take to charge? How many minutes can you mow with it on a full charge?

 

[ArlyA]

I was probably the last person to buy cordless tools. I'm slower then most people at changing to new technology.

There are several things that I really like about a battery lawn mower. No engine noise, no gasoline to buy, and now I just learned that there isn't any belts to turn the blades.

My Scag is throwing one or both belts almost every time I start to use it. It happens once, and after I put them back on, I grease the three spindles with the blades on them, and it's fine for the rest of the day. New belts and new springs haven't made it any better. I just bought a different type of grease, so maybe that's it.

So what I'm really liking about the idea of a battery lawn mower is not having any belts to deal with!!!! When the Scag finally takes its last breath, I might have to consider battery power.

Do you just plug it into a standard 120 volt outlet? How long does it take to charge? How many minutes can you mow with it on a full charge?

It is just plugged into a standard wall outlet. Sorry I can't tell you how long the charge is since I've only used it to mow a grand total of 1/3 of our yard. We've been out of town since purchasing it so the 13yo neighbor boy has been the one using it. Nonetheless, the charger seems to go pretty fast. Each of the two drive motors are directly connected to the wheels with a few oil bath gears in-between so its quite simple. I like KISS systems.

 

[EddieWalker]

How big is your yard? With my Scag zero turn, I break up my mowing into three areas. Each is about two acres. Do you think you can mow two acres on a charge?

 

[ArlyA]

How big is your yard? With my Scag zero turn, I break up my mowing into three areas. Each is about two acres. Do you think you can mow two acres on a charge?

I'd guess not but we don't have max capacity batteries in 2 slots either. (has 6 battery slots) Our yard is just 100ft x 300ft with buildings in that.

 

[Fixastuff]

That’s crazy light. Way different from the Greenworks I tested.

Greenworks tries very hard to hide the obscene weight of their mowers, you won’t even find it in their manuals or specifications, which makes sizing a trailer for two of them awful hard. But Google summary lists the weight of their standard 60” (most common commercial gasser size) at almost 4000 lb.

By comparison gas-powered commercial 60’s weigh around 1200 lb.

Greenworks should list the cost of a new 10k or even 15k lb. trailer in their cost-savings graph, since nearly every landscaper I see around here is hauling two 60” zero turns on a 7k lb trailer. That’s not going to work with any pair of 3861 lb. Greenworks mowers.

Doesn’t that image show the higher capacity one at 386lbs and the lower capacity 306lbs.

I think they just fat fingered a 1 instead of an L. 386 seems light but I don’t see how it could weigh almost 4k lbs.

 

[WinterDeere]

yeah, that number does seem high. But my cousin said the ship weight on his 52” was around 2k lb., so 400 lb seems just as impossible.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I'm still astonished by the cost of an electric mower, when it uses so few parts and has so much less complexity. Think of the number of parts and complexity in a commercial 30hp twin cylinder FI engine? Then the belts, pulleys, tensioners, linkages... Hydraulic systems...??

 

[ArlyA]

I'm still astonished by the cost of an electric mower, when it uses so few parts and has so much less complexity. Think of the number of parts and complexity in a commercial 30hp twin cylinder FI engine? Then the belts, pulleys, tensioners, linkages... Hydraulic systems...??

Please build one for less cost and we'll be in line to buy it.

 

[WinterDeere]

I'm still astonished by the cost of an electric mower, when it uses so few parts and has so much less complexity. Think of the number of parts and complexity in a commercial 30hp twin cylinder FI engine? Then the belts, pulleys, tensioners, linkages... Hydraulic systems...??

I think the cost will come down. A lot of the cost today must be:

1. R&D / startup
2. Lower-volume manufacturing
3. Battery cost

At least the first two of these are going to drop exponentially in the next half dozen years. The third may be waiting on next-technology development, to make appreciable drops.

Anyone been able to find reliable numbers on weight, with all battery slots populated at max capacity? I'm seeing numbers so disparate, that I have no faith in any of them.

 

[5030]

Me, I'll stick with my used (10 year old) F2880 diesel mower and it has no belts either, all drive shaft. Very frugal on diesel as well, in fact I've mowed the yard and the road berms 2 times and used less that 1/4 tank plus the 2880 has a fabricated and welded deck. Tank capacity is 5.1 gallons of off road diesel. I mowed the berms and they were at least a foot high and only took one pass.

I could be wrong but isn't the EGO mower built in China?

 

[ArlyA]

Me, I'll stick with my used (10 year old) F2880 diesel mower and it has no belts either, all drive shaft. Very frugal on diesel as well, in fact I've mowed the yard and the road berms 2 times and used less that 1/4 tank plus the 2880 has a fabricated and welded deck. Tank capacity is 5.1 gallons of off road diesel. I mowed the berms and they were at least a foot high and only took one pass.

I could be wrong but isn't the EGO mower built in China?

As is all the harbor freight tools you claim are the best.

 

[CliffordK]

I'm still astonished by the cost of an electric mower, when it uses so few parts and has so much less complexity. Think of the number of parts and complexity in a commercial 30hp twin cylinder FI engine? Then the belts, pulleys, tensioners, linkages... Hydraulic systems...??

Have you bought any electric tools lately?

$99 for the "bare" tool, and $150 each for a few battery packs.

Many of the larger electric mowers come with a whole bunch of battery packs, (although you can sometimes select how many you want.

The price of mower with battery packs included is often lower than the bare mower plus buying several large capacity batteries separately.

The battery pack on the larger Greenworks Commercial Zero Turn mowers is about the same size as my Ford Transit Connect (which is small by today's standards).

I have an older Ford Ranger EV that came to me with a whole pile of really expensive Odyssey lead acid batteries. Literally weighed a ton, and would barely move the pickup. I'd be several thousand to replace all of those batteries today.

 

[5030]

As is all the harbor freight tools you claim are the best.

I've NEVER CLAIMED that HF tools were the best and I'd like you to post that up so I can read it. That don't exist and you know it.

What I've said in the past is that for the money, the HF lines excluding the Chicago Electric line are a good value for the dollars spent.

I challenge you to post up where I said they were the best because I never have. Kind of like you and your Tesla fettish in a way.

 

[5030]

I thought the EGO stuff was Chinese and you just confirmed that. Thank you.