What NOT TO do!!

DwayneB · Dec 19, 2006

JohnS said:
Ok, now I'm off my litigation soapbox.

You know what happened on the last thread that got a good discussion going. lol

Seems is was something about a broke tractor.

Hawk J · Feb 27, 2009

Howdy, Dan or anyone with a Jinma 284, could you please show me a picture of the bucket on these loaders? I just bought a 2006 Jinma 284 (first time tractor owner). The only tag i see, is on a center cylinder for the hydraulics. It says (Spencer-made in Canada).

Thankyou.............

Jack

erj · Feb 27, 2009

Jack,
If it has a single center cylinder for bucket tilt and since you are in the Pacific Northwest, I suspect it is a Coldwater FEL. On the right side will be a Prince FEL valve.
RonJ

Ranch_Hand_Supp · Feb 27, 2009

Hawk J said:
The only tag i see, is on a center cylinder for the hydraulics. It says (Spencer-made in Canada).

Thankyou.............

Jack

My guess is that Spencer Fluid Power is the MFD of the hyd cylinder.

I agree with erj that it souns like a coldwater loader ??

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

Hawk J · Mar 1, 2009

erj said:
Jack,
If it has a single center cylinder for bucket tilt and since you are in the Pacific Northwest, I suspect it is a Coldwater FEL. On the right side will be a Prince FEL valve.
RonJ

I couldn't get on the forum to post fer awhile fer some reason.............

Thankyou erj & Ronald. I have a single center cylinder & two joystick HYD controls on the right side. The bucket is a smaller one but i guess that is so the hydraulic system & frame isn't overloaded?? Erj do you have the smaller bucket?

Is the Coldwater FEL a decent loader?

Thankyou

Jack

erj · Mar 1, 2009

This is my first tractor so I don't have experience with other FELs.
I do know that it has done everything that I wanted to do and at times I have been pretty rough on its usage. I have had no problems and would get one again.
If you want further info (pictures) send me a Personal Message (PM) with your Email address. I don't like the effort required to post pictures here.
RonJ

Hawk J · Mar 1, 2009

ok, i sent PM.....................

RonMar · Mar 1, 2009

I have a coldwater FEL also. It has worked very well for me. IMO, I think it is perfectly sized and built for the 284 series tractor and will help keep from overloading the front end and possibly causing drivetrain damage there. I have lifted enough with that loader to pick the rear wheels off the ground so the frame is plenty strong. That bucket full of wet sand or gravel is enough to make the rear end light.

I think the OP on this very old thread was pushing forward/scraping with the bucket tilted way down. This is a recipe for damage with any FEL. When using the bucket, think of the bottom of the bucket like a knife blade. If you are pushing into anything, you want to do so that the force is directed straight back toward the bucket pivot pins. This will be the axis where the bucket is at it's strongest and reduces strain on the bucket roll cylinders and structure. It is also a loader, not a bulldozer. It is intended/designed to push into relatively loose material and scoop it up. If you are trying to push into something that will not move, or the bucket will not penetrate/dig into, you are using the wrong tool.

Haven't really had any problem with mine other than breaking off grease nipples at the bucket pivots from debris(rock) getting back in between pivot and the back side of the bucket. My only complaint was that the original prince 2 spool valve didn't have float on the first spool. I replacd that 2 spool with the same model valve in 3 spool that had float on the first. Float makes the loader a much more usefull tool for spreading and smoothing material. I built a fork bucket for it(you can see it to the left in my avitar) and used the third spool on the new valve for a grapple, another highly usefull tool for working with brush and branches.