Now that I have had time to think about it, I always cycle the control in all directions while attaching and un-attaching equipment with the tractor off. I do that because it does help some but doesn't solve the problem. This has happened far too many times now to be just something I'm doing wrong. At least, I think.
Loader WHAT IS QUICK ABOUT QUICK COUPLINGS?
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Wagtail
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And I'm not too proud to admit that, when hooking up my 4in1 bucket, I forgot to include cycling the 3rd function button control. Cursed a blue streak until I 'figured' that out. Now they just slide in once I've pushed the locking collar back.
No it should not be! If your unable to deal with a simple cost effective means then You should pay extra to have that Much more expensive set up installed to your tractor and not expect the rest of us who have never had a problem for more than the 50 years mentioned to be forced to pay extra so you can have it easy!
What's the, "cost effective means" solution? If I knew of one I would gladly have paid it. I saw none and bought exactly what I wanted when new, caring little toward cost. Do you mean, swapping factory for aftermarket? I know of no factory direct option that would have allowed an easy solution. That system is not something from JD, even as an option. Again, maybe I'm missing something?
Yes you should buy aftermarket and leave the simple cost effective factory quick disconnects alone. I have no need to have anymore cost added to my tractors. I am an old man with arthritis and still have no problems with them.
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It's the method of a) lower the implement to the ground, b) shut the tractor engine off, c) cycle the joystick & 3rd function to relieve the hydraulic pressure in the lines, d) easily connect the hydraulic couplings without having to curse to High Heaven, and e) start your tractor back up.
It's 'cost effective' because that's what already on tractors.
TheMan419
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If the other methods were cheaper they would already be on a tractor. The reason they are not is they must be more expensive AND there is not enough of an out cry of people wanting an easier solution. If there was the manufacturer would either (a) make it standard equipment or (b) offer it as an option.
The manufacturer is in business to make money. So they will offer as options things that make them money.
If they did not offer it as an option and there was demand for it the dealer would offer to add it as an extra (for a cost of course).
The manufacturer is in business to make money. So they will offer as options things that make them money.
If they did not offer it as an option and there was demand for it the dealer would offer to add it as an extra (for a cost of course).
Silvic
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As has been said. All the things you want are available. Look in the catalogs.
They are not put on as they cost a LOT MORE than the standard QD whether FF or AG style. I find my FF 1 inch connectors at well north of $100 and even the 3/4" are slightly north of $100 to be steep enough. That is per coupler or nipple. $250 to $350 for a set. When one breaks I replace it if one broke on a gang style it would be several thousand instead of much less and you would be throwing away several good parts with the one broken one in the gang setup. As was said what we have on most equipment is there because it is cost effective for the majority of folks that use the equipment and who do not have or chose not to spend the money on the fancy stuff. Most folks won't use FF as they are a good bit more than AG style, there is no way they will pay for the gang stype connectors you describe.
Yes the smaller size that is found on a SCUT are much less expensive as you can find an AG 1/4" for less than $20 a nipple/coupler. FF 1/4" are around $30 depending upon manufacturer.
They are not put on as they cost a LOT MORE than the standard QD whether FF or AG style. I find my FF 1 inch connectors at well north of $100 and even the 3/4" are slightly north of $100 to be steep enough. That is per coupler or nipple. $250 to $350 for a set. When one breaks I replace it if one broke on a gang style it would be several thousand instead of much less and you would be throwing away several good parts with the one broken one in the gang setup. As was said what we have on most equipment is there because it is cost effective for the majority of folks that use the equipment and who do not have or chose not to spend the money on the fancy stuff. Most folks won't use FF as they are a good bit more than AG style, there is no way they will pay for the gang stype connectors you describe.
Yes the smaller size that is found on a SCUT are much less expensive as you can find an AG 1/4" for less than $20 a nipple/coupler. FF 1/4" are around $30 depending upon manufacturer.
As I've already stated, I DO ALL THOSE THINGS!!!!
A. Do you still roll the windows up in your new truck because it's cost effective?
B. Did you buy your tractor from Northern Tool?
What do you think? I don't lower my implement to the ground and complain because I can't get the disconnects apart?
Doing as you suggest, is mandatory to removing any implement and I've never stated that I have a problem disconnecting lines.
I am specifically talking about "re-attaching" my loader after it has sat on a solid, flat, concrete floor for 7 months. My tractor is not the problem. It is the implement lines that have built up pressure from relaxing over time. If the lines are reattached in a week, there is no problem. Maybe the problem lies in the JD loader having no direct leg that removes pressure from the cylinders? If other people are not having this problem, it does not mean I'm fighting to make your tractor purchase more expensive and there is no reason to go that direction in your panic for self preservation. From the quick research I've done on the lever acting fast connects, they are impossible to find pricing on, impossible to find at standard locations and seem non-existent. It is likely also nearly impossible to find a dealer who would do the work without custom fabrication. Currently this is no solution at all and certainly not the same as telling your dealer to add power windows to the list of factory options.
Maybe I should change this thread to, "Anyone else having problems reattaching their JD loaders after sitting for long periods of time"?
Maybe a short length of 2X4 is the only expense I would have to fix this problem.
I think you are likely right Silvic. I'm guessing they are much more expensive than standard and that's why I can't find pricing or sellers. I'm guessing if pressure built up in an implement with 1in connectors in the way my loader does, that's got to be a real bear to release! At least my system is small.