What did I break?

[Shawn T. W.]

Well it worked just fine for over 4 years, and 780 hours of use . . .

And if I hadn't done this boneheaded thing, it would still be just fine!

I was trying to avoid using my cabbed tractor to put the brush hog up out of the way on the trailer ...
Not much clearance to the kitties bed/shelf, and I wasn't sure of the angle coming up the ramp if it would clear ... It did!

 

[mediplt]

The loader arms don't seem to be bent ...

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I'm not home now, so can't look farther ...

The "problem" was the rear section of the brush hog is round, and it wasn't on the right side paddle quite all the way, obviously it lifted it fine, but once it slipped off it either bent something, or I thought that somehow the hydraulic fluid inside skipped past the piston ... Not sure if that is possible ...

I've used both the bucket and forks since this happened, they work fine once I get them hooked up ...

I did the same thing except with different cylinders on my Kubota. Wound up blowing a seal in the cylinder. it would still work, somewhat, but hydraulic fluid would "leak by" when under load, and it lost about 60% of it's lift capacity, and you would notice a "lean" as it lifted. After you get them to line up, "with the tree", cycle them a bunch and measure them for a travel difference, or notice if they get to the end of travel at the same time. Mine cost me around 300$ for a cylinder rebuild at a local hydraulic shop. It is a more common mistake than you would imagine according to the guy that rebuilt mine. New seals and mine is as good as new. Good luck

 

[AnotherBueller]

Bent or twisted the torsion/stabilizer bar?

I have 3 welded on my bucket, one each center and each corner. I use which ever works best of the situation I'm in.

 

[LARGEONE]

I was able to use the tractor hydraulics to bend mine back. I stuck piece of firewood in the crux of the pivot and revved up a bit, then used the hydraulics of the tractor to bend it back. Not perfect, but I can use my implements again.

Mine happened when one side of my bucket came loose and I didn't realize it. When I tried to lift a heavy load, the cylindrical cross connect torqued.

 

[sd455dan]

I used the loader for a few weeks prior to the original post, hoping that if it was a hydraulic fluid type problem, that it would straighten itself out, it did not .

I believe now that the cross member is the designed "weak link" in case something like this stupid mistake should happen ...

My guess is also like mentioned above that since the curl cylinders are plumbed in parallel, that they act like a axle with a differential when both tires are off the ground, I can be turned forward, the other will turn backwards ...

I'm not home now, in CA, headed to MS ...

Yep,You guys are cracking me up- like posted earlier the cylinders in parallel without the tie bar they can easily be pushed opposite of each other by hand. I don't have tie bars on my two Rhino tractors so if they get completely reversed I just fully retract (Curl ) the lever first and then extend and then push into the QA mount on the implement.

If one cylinder extends the other must retract when things are not broken.

I really should build tie bars for both machines.

 

[Shawn T. W.]

I just fully retract (Curl ) the lever first and then extend and then push into the QA mount on the implement.

The video I did in post #24 shows them only "even" at the complete ends of the stroke, a impossible position to hook onto the implement.

Yeah, that's kinda what I did for a couple of weeks ... But, if the bucket or forks aren't against something solid, it's a chase it around for a bit for it to cooperate!

Much better now!