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Les walter

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for putting my tractor on a trailer, do I need tandem axle? I have a B7100 with a front loader and a backhoe attached.....does it weigh more than 2000 lb.?

Les
 
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Les walter said:
for putting my tractor on a trailer, do I need tandem axle? I have a B7100 with a front loader and a backhoe attached.....does it weigh more than 2000 lb.?

Les

Do you have a trailer with a single 2,000# axle?

According to this website TractorData.com - Kubota B7100 tractor data your tractor only weighs 1,040 lbs. What is the weight of your FEL and hoe?

In my opinion: tractor fits on the trailer without too much tongue weight + not overloading the axle = no problem.
 
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Les walter said:
for putting my tractor on a trailer, do I need tandem axle? I have a B7100 with a front loader and a backhoe attached.....does it weigh more than 2000 lb.?

Les

The major problem of single axle trailers is load placement, so as to avoid overloading the tongue...

Tandem trailers simplify this process...:D
 
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Les walter said:
for putting my tractor on a trailer, do I need tandem axle? I have a B7100 with a front loader and a backhoe attached.....does it weigh more than 2000 lb.?

Les

Not to be a wise guy, but you need a trailer that has a sufficient GVWR for the load you intend to carry and is physically large enough to accomodate it. It would be nice if were a tandem axle trailer, but a single axle will work.
 
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I towed my b7500 1200# + FEL and rears empty (still under 2000#) with a 3000# GVW (empty about 1000#) single axel trailer almost 700mi. I had the weight almost dead center over the axle, just made sure the tires were properly inflated and checked them at regular intervals, both visually and also feel them and the bearings for excessive heat, I had no problems at all. I'm thinking the BH will push you over the limit though, they're pretty heavy.
 
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The heaviest of the single axle trailers is about 2900 lbs capacity, your tractor probably weighs in about 1500 with a 500lb loader and 700lb hoe. If your trailer weighs in at 800 lbs you are over weight. Being able to position the load for balance is important and you really need a minimum of a 14' trailer length.
 
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Hasn’t been mentioned but I would not want close to a ton worth of trailer and tractor behind me without trailer brakes.

MarkV
 
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MarkV said:
Hasn稚 been mentioned but I would not want close to a ton worth of trailer and tractor behind me without trailer brakes.

MarkV
That's a good point. I used to tow a 2,990 lb GVWR cargo trailer without brakes behind my Tacoma. One day an idiot pulled out directly in front of me on the interstate doing about 35 mph. I had nowhere to go because of other traffic, and I stood on the brakes. I managed to get slowed in time, but just barely.

The next day I ordered the electric brake components, and that trailer never hit the road again without brakes. It only takes once.
 
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This is sort of relevant about brakes. In my younger days, I had a Ford Van 6 cyl 200 with nothing special. I went to mid Tennessee from Norfolk Virginia to get an Opel car for a friend and to pick up a few things. We borrowed a trailer from a landlord ( to just get a car a few miles away?). There were no brakes other than what was on the van. On the way back, there was a private scale nearby so I weighed myself in at 11000 #. Coming back on the Interstate I was going to stop for lunch and started to brake from 70+ and it was like there were no brakes at all. It took a quarter mile to get down to a reasonable speed. We missed lunch but drove real slow for the rest of the trip. Fortunately, most all of it was interstate. Sometimes good to be lucky than smart. When I need to move my tractor, I hire somebody. My one axle trailer is good for 3500# but not sure how I would ever balance it to keep tongue weight reasonable.
 
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I pulled a Ford 1100 which weighs just a little more than his tractor all over Jacksonville, on a single axle trailer, with a 3500 pound axle. Tires weren't rated that high, but I didn't have sense to know better. Subtracting a bush hog, adding a FEL and BH, I would be inclined to think that it might just be a handful on a single axle. Can it be done, no doubt, but having done it, I would tend to want to go with the tandom axle if I had the choice, just for the safety margin.
David from jax
 
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Personally, I wouldn't tow a tractor like that regularly with a single axle trailer.

One nice thing about a tandem, is if you have a blow out doing 70 mph, the trailer isn't going to move around near as much as if it was only a single axle.

I don't know from experience, but there are plenty of folks on the boat forum I frequent who have. They say it's not fun trying to get a single axle trailer calmed down & over to the shoulder in interstate traffic.

I do regularly haul my Yanmar F16 (~1900 lbs) on the single axle trailer I built myself (so I know it's strong), with a 5,000lb axle. But, that's only for local, <20 mile, no interstate driving. If I take it any further, I borrow my dad's tandem for piece of mind.
 
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Here is a trick to find the correct tounge weight. Put jack stands under the trailer bed with a little air gap (front and rear). Load the tractor so that it is balanced over the axle(s). Pull ahead 1 foot and you will be fine.
 
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It could weigh a lot more than you expect. My Yanmar has a catalog weight about 1800 lbs, plus it has a loader and oversize rear tires. I put it on a UHaul that had a builder's tag claiming the trailer weighed 2,000 lbs. No ballast on the tractor.

Actual truck scale weight was over 5100 lbs. (plus the tow vehicle). Assuming the UHaul's tag was correct, that loader and the big tires added 1300 lbs. You never know until you weigh it.
 
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Les walter said:
for putting my tractor on a trailer, do I need tandem axle? I have a B7100 with a front loader and a backhoe attached.....does it weigh more than 2000 lb.?

Les
It depends on the use of the trailer for distances. I had one single axle trailer, and you couldn't give me one free!! It was never over loaded, but traveled on the interstates near max weight. The tires are always slightly squirming regardless of the drivers skills, which build heat. I blew out the left rear tire on a Interstate at night, and here is the results: as the tire unraveled around the axle, it separated the axle from the leaf spring; the axle jumped out of the wheel wheel, and a trail of sparks resulted as we came to a stop.
If you value your load, and tow near gross weight; for piece of mind, get a double axle trailer for any distant towing!
 
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If we use a current model B7410 as equivalent, here are the weights out of the Kubota price book rounded to 100 lbs:

B7410 - 1300lbs
LA272 loader with bucket - 700lbs
BA4672 Backhoe with bucket - 900lbs
If your tires are loaded, then add about 300-400lbs

That adds up to 2900 lbs without loaded tires, and 3200-3400 lbs with loaded tires.

Given this, I think you need at least a 5000 GVW trailer. This would allow a max of 1600 lbs for the weight of the trailer itself and a payload of 3400lbs (totals 5000lbs)
 
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jimmer2880 said:
One nice thing about a tandem, is if you have a blow out doing 70 mph, the trailer isn't going to move around near as much as if it was only a single axle.

Towing at 70mph is not good...in fact, most trailer tires are not rated for 70mph...
 
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PaulChristenson said:
Towing at 70mph is not good...in fact, most trailer tires are not rated for 70mph...

That would be a pretty poor design then, since there are many areas of this country where the speed limit is 70mph or greater.
 
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Just because the speed limit is 70, doesn't mean you have to go that fast. People tend to want to run with the traffic flow and sometimes that is more than what your situation calls for. Travel at your speed, not the one everyone else is doing. Speed limits are the maximum, and very few places mandate a minimum for state road speeds. Granted Interstates do have them, but they probably aren't what most of us are using when traveling 20 miles with our tractors.
In my early days of driving, I drove many a mile with a load greater than most of our tractor/trailer/and pickup trucks weigh combined, all safely on a single axle trailer. The safety of any vehicle is only as good as it's weakest point. They make single axle tires that will withstand the entire load of a tractor on them, but trust me, they are not cheap, so aren't what comes on a normal trailer that you purchase at the local trailer place. Make sure your weakest link is stronger than any load your plan on putting on the trailer or towing vehicle.
David from jax
 
 
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