Oil & Fuel UTF at Kioti Dealer

   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #41  
I planned on picking up some at Ahearns in Spencer. I haven't really bothered looking around for it yet. I'll probably stop in on Monday and ask what they're charging for it.

It would be interesting to see what they charge. My tractor has two different quantities listed for the HST. One say 11 gals the other says almost 15 gallons.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #42  
The lower # is correct......I have a full 5 gal pail in my garage thinking I needed 15..... :)
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #43  
The lower # is correct......I have a full 5 gal pail in my garage thinking I needed 15..... :)

Thanks for the info. I wish Kioti would get their S--t straight in their manuals.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #44  
Stopped at Ahearns the other day. $100 +tax for 5allon pail. Told me it was on sale for the month....usually $108.99 Some sale eh? They sell in Qrts, Gallons and 2 1/2 gallons also.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #45  
The lower # is correct......I have a full 5 gal pail in my garage thinking I needed 15..... :)

Wish I'd read this a few days ago. Same thing here, opened the 3rd pail, starting pouring and... Well, you know the rest, it don't hold 15 gallons, it holds 11 (NX6010)
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #46  
Stopped at Ahearns the other day. $100 +tax for 5allon pail. Told me it was on sale for the month....usually $108.99 Some sale eh? They sell in Qrts, Gallons and 2 1/2 gallons also.

Thanks for the info. They are pretty decent folks but I have never found a great deal there ever. After doing some research the prices that I have found are between $103.00 and 110.00 a pail.
 
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   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #47  
Thanks for the info. They are pretty decent folks but I have never found a great deal there ever. After doing some research the prices that I have found are between $103.00 and 110.00 a pail.

The 424 I just put in my Kioti (which is listed as a compatible fluid on the TSB) was 67/pail delivered from Summit Racing. Couldn't be happier with it in the 3 hours I spent on the machine, huge change from the mix of oil I had in before (Kioti UTF and Travelers Universal).
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #48  
I emailed this company and got a response that it will support a Kioti:
Amazon.com: Triax Agra UTTO XL SYNBLEND Premium Tractor Hydraulic & Transmission Oil - Extreme Performance - Replaces OEM Fluids John Deere Hygard, CASE Hydtran, AKCELA, Kubota UDT & UDT2 (1 gal (Pack of 4)): Automotive

When I get ready to flush out the system gonnah ask my local NAPA dealer if he can order for me.
I build up bonus points and the rapport with the folks there.
But if anyone catches something I may have missed please post, cause it'll be good to catch it before I invest in product and do the do. lol
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #49  
The 424 I just put in my Kioti (which is listed as a compatible fluid on the TSB) was 67/pail delivered from Summit Racing. Couldn't be happier with it in the 3 hours I spent on the machine, huge change from the mix of oil I had in before (Kioti UTF and Travelers Universal).

That is a cheap price for sure. I'll check with my local supplier at work to see what they charge.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer
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#50  
The 424 I just put in my Kioti (which is listed as a compatible fluid on the TSB) was 67/pail delivered from Summit Racing. Couldn't be happier with it in the 3 hours I spent on the machine, huge change from the mix of oil I had in before (Kioti UTF and Travelers Universal).

On the web site it said that was for 2 2.5 gal jugs @$69 and a single 2.5 gal jug is $35. Good if you need between 5 and 7.5 gals; interestingly enough a single 5 gal pail is $77.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #51  
On the web site it said that was for 2 2.5 gal jugs @$69 and a single 2.5 gal jug is $35. Good if you need between 5 and 7.5 gals; interestingly enough a single 5 gal pail is $77.

There is a $10.00 rebate on the 5 gallon pails. End price is $67.00 a pail delivered. I bought 3 pails from them recently.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #52  
yeah i was wondering where i could find the good hyd oil and it sounds like the 424 from summit is a great price.
 
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#53  
Well, I'm at the point where I need to change the fluid.

I heard so much about Kubota SUDT2 I called the local dealer ; $101.85 for a 5 gal pail. Full synthetic Multi-grade

I called my local Kioti dealer and they carry (and use in the shop) Wolf's Head (http://www.wolfshead.com/assets/6b_wolfshead-tractor-ht-111128.pdf) at $60/5gal. A conventional multi-grade

And Summit has the two pack of Mobil 424 for $69 + $10 s/h = $70 for 2 - 2.5 gal. (with a $5/2.5gal rebate) Net cost=$69 However it' PDS doesn't state it's grade/weight. either multi-grade or ISO. (a call to Mobil Tech results that it's an ISO46 = 20w)

I've been using TSC Traveller UTF but found it's a single grade, ie ISO46 = 20 weight. And my HST CK2510 seems to whine a lot, especially when cold and in hi range.
BUT TSC also carries Rotella HD (a UTF) which is a 10-w30 grade rated GL-4 for $58 + tax.

With winter coming (here) I think I'm going with the Wolf's Head or Rotella. SInce the Wolf's head is closer and cheaper, it's the winner.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #54  
Well, I'm at the point where I need to change the fluid.

I heard so much about Kubota SUDT2 I called the local dealer ; $101.85 for a 5 gal pail. Full synthetic Multi-grade

I called my local Kioti dealer and they carry (and use in the shop) Wolf's Head (http://www.wolfshead.com/assets/6b_wolfshead-tractor-ht-111128.pdf) at $60/5gal. A conventional multi-grade

And Summit has the two pack of Mobil 424 for $69 + $10 s/h = $70 for 2 - 2.5 gal. (with a $5/2.5gal rebate) Net cost=$69 However it' PDS doesn't state it's grade/weight. either multi-grade or ISO. (a call to Mobil Tech results that it's an ISO46 = 20w)

I've been using TSC Traveller UTF but found it's a single grade, ie ISO46 = 20 weight. And my HST CK2510 seems to whine a lot, especially when cold and in hi range.
BUT TSC also carries Rotella HD (a UTF) which is a 10-w30 grade rated GL-4 for $58 + tax.

With winter coming (here) I think I'm going with the Wolf's Head or Rotella. SInce the Wolf's head is closer and cheaper, it's the winner.
The traveler premium utf is a 10w20 multi weight. Not a straight 20w
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #55  
For what it's worth I just did the 50 hour service on my 2610 and used the SuperTech brand UTF from WalMart as everything else is around an hour away. It made a HUGE difference in the amount of whine from both the HST and the hydraulic pump. Whatever the dealer used when they assembled the tractor made quite a bit of noise, I couldn't believe how much quieter the SuperTech oil was. Think it was $47 for 5 gallons. I guess time will tell but so far I'd happily use it again.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer
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#56  
The traveler premium utf is a 10w20 multi weight. Not a straight 20w


Specification Description
Product Type: Hydraulic & Transmission Fluid
Brand: Traveller
Flash Point: 435 deg. F
ISO Viscosity Grade: 46
Pour Point: -44 deg. F
Manufacturer Part Number 590901

This is their Specs from the website. ISO 46 = 20W. In the verbiage it says "...Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydrauilic Fluid is a specially formulated, premium multigrade (SAE 10W-30) fluid .."

Two contradictory statements.

What does it say on the container?
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #57  
Specification Description
Product Type: Hydraulic & Transmission Fluid
Brand: Traveller
Flash Point: 435 deg. F
ISO Viscosity Grade: 46
Pour Point: -44 deg. F
Manufacturer Part Number 590901

This is their Specs from the website. ISO 46 = 20W. In the verbiage it says "...Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydrauilic Fluid is a specially formulated, premium multigrade (SAE 10W-30) fluid .."

Two contradictory statements.

What does it say on the container?

That info TSC website is not correct. I actually spoke with the mfg that produces it and they directed me to their website. Here is the link http://martinlubricants.com/wp-cont...Xtreme-Premium-HD-Tractor-Hydraulic-Fluid.pdf It is a 10w30
 
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#58  
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer #59  
The Mobil 424 is supposed to be a 10-30 weight oil.
 
   / UTF at Kioti Dealer
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#60  
Thanks! I was a little put off by the uncertainty. I am also looking to reduce the whine. Not sure if the Wolf's Head will do that. Time will tell.
The Wolf's Head did NOT reduce the whine; it might even be worse. I'm hoping it's just noise and not bad for the tractor but maybe for the nest fluid change I'l bite the bullet and go SUDT2
 

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