Used Value vs Age

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

WHAT! HOW could that be??? I thought food was made at the grocery store where you buy it???

I read an article about hunting. A lady was complaining about hunters shooting and eating animals. She said "That is terrible. Why don't they just buy meat at the grocery store where it is made!

"I read an article about hunting. A lady was complaining about hunters shooting and eating animals. She said "That is terrible. Why don't they just buy meat at the grocery store where it is made!"

It's people like her that is proving the movie 'idiocracy' to not be science fiction anymore (smh)

 

[mo1]

So with today's values it is perfectly acceptable to modify the teachings of Christ to fit your behavior?

That was a comment about it being useless to try to set an example today. Not only will others not follow it, they will take advantage of you for having done it.

 

[Hay Dude]

That was a comment about it being useless to try to set an example today. Not only will others not follow it, they will take advantage of you for having done it.

We gotta keep trying though. Once the good people in this country quit believing in themselves and that with good work ethic, this country is still a great nation, we are sunk.
I admit, we are close to disaster, but I think there’s enough good people left. I see some here on this website.
We are in dire need of moral, effective, intelligent leadership

 

[Hay Dude]

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Man that’s beautiful

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Man that’s beautiful

Agreed

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Steppenwolfe said:
"Sure is... take the evangelicals for the last few years as proof of that."

I think I'll give that one a pass.
rScotty

And therein lies the problem.

 

[OzarkChris]

When I was young I used to be against immigrant workers because they took away the harvest and farm work that our family had traditionally done for generations.

When the immigrants came in the 1950s they worked so cheaply in the fields that our family had to turn to other jobs. We had no other choice, so we adapted.

Now that I've lived to be an older guy, I see those immigrants today on our borders and that started me thinking....

Some of those people left everything, and have now walked for years and thousands of miles for years while living hand to mouth...and all for a slight chance that they might get lucky enough to do hard labor that few of us here want to do.

Maybe they aren't such bad people; maybe most are exactly the kind of people we want.

I'm not convinced yet; I'm still thinking it through...
rScotty

I'm all for immigration, but let's do it "Legally".

 

[OzarkChris]

Chris, I think we agree on more than you think. I wasn't insinuating that there aren't people that will still work hard. But in most areas I have seen, there are job postings all over the place, and the people who will work hard are already working. If you can still find people willing to work in Arkansas to fill new jobs, good for you, but I will assure you it is not that way in many areas of our country, and not just in the big cities.

And I too think nuclear power is the way to go, People look at nuclear power through they eyes of 50 year old technology. We have much better ways of doing it today if we just would get over the prejudice against it. (MHarryE, this is a place where technology fits well!) And I am certainly not a fan of windmills either. Solar panels have their place, but aren't a total answer. I am of the opinion we need to ween ourselves off fossil fuels but we need to do it intelligently. I am also certain we will certainly make numerous mistakes along the way.

The extreme environmentalist I was referring to were your mention of tree huggers and spotted owl defenders.

I also think those robotic tractors will be commonplace in 50 years, like it or not. But I think a person would be a fool to invest in one for practical use today.

But in most areas I have seen, there are job postings all over the place, and the people who will work hard are already working.

I believe you may find a bunch of folks living on extended unemployment, etc. 'Round here. $10-15/hour is a decent wage (even when part of that goes toward cheap rent on our property). Again, no longer living in the big city, our "living wage" is probably somewhere around $12/hr (I know many folks living - and saving $ every month - making less). Out here it isn't all about $150+ bottle cognac, $80k+ cars/trucks, eating out every day, etc etc. With these truths, it's really hard to pull folks away from their tv's & couches when Uncle Sugar will pay them the same for doing nothing. I'm not bring political, just being a realist.

Probably the best thing to do with "everyone" that is able-bodied but still on unemployment would be to give them a choice. Start working immediately or draft them into the Military - seriously, maybe then they would understand what "America" is and why folks like myself were willing to die for those who have some of these F'd up ideas/opinions. Please don't take this personally, I'm not specifically speaking about you, but of the AOC's if the world.

Final thought: why don't we institute a mandatory draft (all 72+ sexes) of ALL able-bodied people for a period of 3-4 years. Then everyone could have their free college, medical care, etc without spending trillions?

Some of us enjoyed the military enough to spend 20-30+ years and retire. And NO I'm NOT what many believe - a person without any skills, education or marketable intelligence - My clients have told me I have more "marketable" degrees than a thermometer, but I sure do enjoy working this dirt/land and selling what we can't eat, can etc for ourself.

 

[IndyJay]

When I was young I used to be against immigrant workers because they took away the harvest and farm work that our family had traditionally done for generations.

When the immigrants came in the 1950s they worked so cheaply in the fields that our family had to turn to other jobs. We had no other choice, so we adapted.

Now that I've lived to be an older guy, I see those immigrants today on our borders and that started me thinking....

Some of those people left everything, and have now walked for years and thousands of miles for years while living hand to mouth...and all for a slight chance that they might get lucky enough to do hard labor that few of us here want to do.

Maybe they aren't such bad people; maybe most are exactly the kind of people we want.

I'm not convinced yet; I'm still thinking it through...
rScotty

Scotty, it is not the same as it was prior to 50 or so years ago. "Migrant" workers used to come North to work the fields and take the money back home to their families. Some stayed year-round and worked to send money home. There was little in the way of "free" education, health care or other "entitlements" (funny word for it if you think about it). There was no incentive to move the extended family here, there were only so many low-wage jobs, and it was much more expensive to live here than back home. It worked very well that way for both parties until fairly recently.

You know what? You seldom hear the phrase "migrant worker" anymore.

 

[OzarkChris]

Chris, I think we agree on more than you think. I wasn't insinuating that there aren't people that will still work hard. But in most areas I have seen, there are job postings all over the place, and the people who will work hard are already working. If you can still find people willing to work in Arkansas to fill new jobs, good for you, but I will assure you it is not that way in many areas of our country, and not just in the big cities.

And I too think nuclear power is the way to go, People look at nuclear power through they eyes of 50 year old technology. We have much better ways of doing it today if we just would get over the prejudice against it. (MHarryE, this is a place where technology fits well!) And I am certainly not a fan of windmills either. Solar panels have their place, but aren't a total answer. I am of the opinion we need to ween ourselves off fossil fuels but we need to do it intelligently. I am also certain we will certainly make numerous mistakes along the way.

The extreme environmentalist I was referring to were your mention of tree huggers and spotted owl defenders.

I also think those robotic tractors will be commonplace in 50 years, like it or not. But I think a person would be a fool to invest in one for practical use today.

I also think those robotic tractors will be commonplace in 50 years, like it or not.

Hopefully by then I'll be but a memory to the grandkids and have already had my ashes used as compost over the land. "... We therefore commit this body to the ground, earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in sure and certain hope of the Resurrection to eternal life ...". burial service, BCP