Used Value vs Age

[Steppenwolfe]

Wow, really? Anything stated that isn't true?

Not the place buddy. Sorry.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Ok, I vehemently disagree with your friend's position on this. The problem is not inherited wealth it's a lack of values. Put anything in the hands of the wrong person and you will have a problem. Our society is not falling apart because people have inherited money and wealth from their forefathers, it's because the values of people have gone down the drain.

Very true.

 

[Hay Dude]

Weather you agree or disagree with Scottie's friend, you seemingly would have to admit that the growing gap between the rich and the poor is an issue that needs to be somehow addressed. Somewhere along the line many of us have modified the definition on liberty and freedom to mean that our priorities and desires overrule that of others. So may the strongest survive and screw the rest. The golden rule has become a rule many talk about but is only for use when convenient and doesn't cost you anything. The people without values are definitely a problem, but maybe some of us who think we have values need to reassess our definition of values.

I don’t agree with that. The “gap” you speak of…..correct me if I am wrong, but 100 years ago the wealthy did little to help the poor. Neighther did the government. There was no social programs, no free housing, no free phones, no free college, no free lunch. Literally nothing but soup kitchens and religious charities.
Now poor people have free housing, free phones, free health care and access to more handouts than ever.
So no, I’m not seeing the “poor getting poorer”. I’m seeing more people lifted out of poverty in this country than ever.
Im not sure all the free handouts really help in the long run. We have multi generational people and families who don’t even know how to work, read, or raise a proper family.

 

[ljjhouser]

Well, whenever/if that happens, people will starve to death.

WHAT! HOW could that be??? I thought food was made at the grocery store where you buy it???

I read an article about hunting. A lady was complaining about hunters shooting and eating animals. She said "That is terrible. Why don't they just buy meat at the grocery store where it is made!

 

[MoKelly]

I read an article about hunting. A lady was complaining about hunters shooting and eating animals. She said "That is terrible. Why don't they just buy meat at the grocery store where it is made!

So, how can any human grow up in this country, go to school, presumably graduate and say the above? How?

It is mind boggling.

MoKelly

 

[Hay Dude]

So, how can any human grow up in this country, go to school, presumably graduate and say the above? How?

It is mind boggling.

MoKelly

True story. I was visiting a friend. Another guest stopped by. We got to talking. She asked me what I did for a living. I said I was a farmer and a carpenter
She said “what an interesting blend of careers….you farm and you install carpet”.
She thought a carpenter installed carpet. Lol

 

[ljjhouser]

So, how can any human grow up in this country, go to school, presumably graduate and say the above? How?

It is mind boggling.

MoKelly

Now you have got me there. There is no explanation for a lot of the ignorant statements I have heard in the last 10 years. But I can maybe beat that. When President Obama was running for office, I heard a talk show host answer a call - it went like this - caller - Mr. Obama is going to pay our rent for us. Host - How do you think that is possible?? Caller - Well, that is what I heard. Host - If elected, where would he be able to get that kind of money, it is a lot. caller Well, he would just get it out of his desk drawer, I suppose.

The concept of statements like these escape me. There is no reason to help. I taught school for 38 years. When giving advice, I always told others in education "don't ever argue with a child. They are a child and do not have to be right, and can make it up as they go. On the other hand, you are an adult - act like an adult and help educate. You must be accountable for what you say - that is part of being an adult. No longer the case. I also HATE the statement "I take responsibility for that." What the hell does that mean - where is recourse for loss?

 

[Cougsfan]

I think it is more appropriate today to follow the "inverse golden rule," which is "treat others the same way they treat you."

So with today's values it is perfectly acceptable to modify the teachings of Christ to fit your behavior?

 

[Hay Dude]

So with today's values it is perfectly acceptable to modify the teachings of Christ to fit your behavior?

I’m a lot more worried about the teachings of Christ being taught at all anymore.

 

[rScotty]

Cougsfan said:
So with today's values it is perfectly acceptable to modify the teachings of Christ to fit your behavior?

Steppenwolfe said:
"Sure is... take the evangelicals for the last few years as proof of that."

I think I'll give that one a pass.
rScotty