Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower

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StrangeRanger

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L3400 HST
I don't know if Meteor sucks or the design sucks, but my first time out blowing snow this season and my Meteor blower puked it's gearbox, again. There even sheer bolts on this POS for if I'm going to keep breaking gearboxes?!
I'm even using "softer" sheer bolts than the manual recommends!!
And no, I didn't hit anything. Sure I was throwing a few rocks, small gravel driveway sized rocks, but the blower was a good 1-2" off the driveway and I was barely throwing any rocks at all. I had left the blower up off the ground to leave a surface of snow to pack down for that exact reason.
This POS blower cost me countless sheer bolts and $427 for the gearbox last year. And now I have to do it again? I'm so f'in pissed off right now. Anybody know any sources to buy these gearboxes from? My dealer is a useless rip off and I might as well start buying them buy the case LOL.
j
 
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/ Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower
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Just tried to email MK Marting/Meteor via their website to see if maybe I'm running too much tractor for this blower. Their website fails on the contact page. Nothing goes through. Guess I'll try to call them.
j
 
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When a rock jams in the main impeller, the weight of the spinning beater and the pto are still trying to turn the gear box. You might want to reduce the strenght of the beater sheer bolt.

May be able to find a bigger gear box too.
 
/ Unbelieveable - small rant on snowblower #4  
I'm sorry to ear this troubles I have a buddy who has the same blower and he picked up a good size 1/2 in steel and only broke the pin. I am curious why yours is failing..
Always good to vent here. but I can feel your frustration, Specially where you weren't doing anything to really make it go bad.
keeps us updated
 
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When a rock jams in the main impeller, the weight of the spinning beater and the pto are still trying to turn the gear box. You might want to reduce the strenght of the beater sheer bolt.

May be able to find a bigger gear box too.

I use "softer" bolts than the manual recommends and one of the sheer bolts is right on the end of the pto into the gear box. For sure that bolt should have broken b/f the gearbox did. I've certainly changed it in the past.

I can't see how a bigger gear box could fit, the mounting location will only allow an X sized gearbox ya know.

Kubotafan: prior to running the blower the week before I removed all the sheer bolts to check them, lubed everything, inspected/greased/tensioned the chain drive, made sure the gearbox was full of lube, checked the cable to rotate the chute ... basically went over the whole thing w/ a fine tooth comb.
After the gearbox ate itself I immediately shut the tractor down and dug around to see if I hit anything. There was nothing. The auger and fan spin very easily, there is no binding in the system anywhere. Grrrr...
j
 
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Huh... there is no other contact info on MK Martin Enterprises' website. No email links, no phone numbers, no mailing address no nothing. That doesn't bode well.
j
 
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Comet = China - yes?

It sounds like typical cheap china crud
 
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Comet = China - yes?

It sounds like typical cheap china crud

No, actually Meteor is mfg'ed by MK Martin Enterprises out of Canada. So it's Canadian crud.
j
 
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What is breaking on the gearbox? On my blower I have a direct drive from the pto shaft through the gearbox to the impeller. I have a shear bolt on the shaft to the pto shaft. The gearbox on mine only drives the auger, I can't see how jamming the impeller would tear the gearbox apart? Maybe some pics would help?
 
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Did your shear bolts actually break? What grade are you actually using? When running the blower to you raise it all the way up with it running putting stress on the PTO shaft, U-joints, and Gearbox. How old is the unit? 60" unit is reccomended for 20hp but should be fine for yours which is 29hp I believe. When running the blower is the fan spinning centered or is wobbling a little.
I dont doubt you something is wrong but its kind of off that you blew up 2 gearboxs within 2 years.

I did a search and found the phone number that was listed for the company 519-664-3621.
 
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"Crud"

Now, now.. play nice. Crud can be made anywhere.

Likely stupid points to ponder, but nonetheless:

- too high PTO rpms for blower?
- worn or ceased/ceasing bearings? (although I'd expect you'd have seen this with fall inspection)
- bent axle shaft?

If bearings (not sure where or if there are any) were rusty or full or crud (there's that word again) it could be putting undo stress on the system. The blower may still function, but it is working hard to overcome the stress of things.

Does the blower sound smooth and nice at lower RPMs? Any vibrations?

Iunno.. just trying to brain storm. I hate when stuff like this happens to me and hate it more when no one can help. Sometimes feels better to know that at least people are trying to think of things.

(Edit: sorry, missed the 2nd page of posts so others already made some of my suggestions)
 
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I have a 60" meteor which was 10 years old when I bought it 2 years ago, and I use it with a B7800 (30 hp) although I don't get huge dumps of snow where I am. I think I've broken each shear bolt once by picking up a chunk of wood, but other than that no problems (touch wood - no pun intended).I also fling some driveway sized gravel the first few times I use it.I usually only run it about 2200 rpm but have occasionally used 2600. Don't know what the problem could be-sounds like you've checked everything. Did you take the old one apart to see what actually came apart or broke? Hope you're able to find a solution - I don't think they're all bad.
 
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So far you guys are too focused on the shear bolts, hitting something etc. I have a question. Did you use the same oil in the new and old gearbox ? I dont mean recyle oil - i mean from the same container. perhaps its defective ? perhaps in the wrong viscoisty and type ?
 
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HOLY COW:eek:Ifeel so bad for ya.Iwas so close to buying the METEOR ,Ieven have an owners manual for one the salesman gave me.He wouldnt stick to his verbal quote ,so i bought a PRONOVOST PUMA ,and i got a wicked good deal on it.The local dealers are selling the METEORS and not the PRONOVOSTS,this year.They told me its because prices went so high cause of steel,and they didnt think folks would spend more for the pronovost.Thats right from a salesmans mouth from one of MAINES largest dealers in equipment.cant believe as many as there are out there ,that they are junk.Think you got a lemon.
Something is got to be bent or not lined up right to keep taking out your gear boxs.Time to dig out a dial indicator with mag base and see if theres any run out on your shafts.Thats where id start.
ALAN
 
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I own a meteor 68" snowblower which I run with my l2800. I due a mile of dirt road and 8 other dirt driveways and have broke many shear pins. I dont think it is crud but maybe you have a lemon... my blower is also a pull type so I dont have to back up a mile.
 
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A LOT ... and I mean A LOT of people up here use the Meteor blowers. I have the 68" one myself. Pretty much every dealer around here sells the Meteor blowers.

Mine has been great. Last year we had a lot of snow and I broke a total of three shear bolts. In all cases, it was a large piece of firewood that was left on the driveway by one of my dogs - who enjoy picking up HUGE pieces of firewood from my woodpile and dropping it on the driveway to be covered with snow for some perverse reason.

The dealer who sold me the Meteor sells me Grade 5 shear bolts to go with it - and yes - they shear just fine.

So something sounds very wrong with your particular blower. Its unfortunate when these types of things hit but I imagine that they happen to a few of every manufacturer / make / model.

Hope you do figure out what it is.
 
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I am dying to know - did you by accident use wrong oil or have defective oil in the gearbox ?
 
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Thanks for all the feedback guys/girls. Now to address some points raised if I can remember them all.

First, I was only junking w/ the crud comment. I was replying to the others guy's comments and feeling very bitter about my situation. I wanted to buy a Provonost when I was looking, but simply couldn't afford one. I did a lot of reading before deciding on the Meteor blower. And aside from them being the "basic" brand of blowers they seemed to have a decent reputation for sturdiness. So I went with it and it does perform well when operating. My biggest gripe is that they don't come standard w/ skid shoes. But that's what you get when you buy inexpensive product lines.

Maintenance wise I'm religious about upkeep. My drive way is 2,200' long and must be kept accessible b/c one of my sons has some server disabilities and medical assistance has to be able to make it. I follow the manuals scheduled maintenance to the "T" and more. Plus, we spend a boat load of $$$ on these things, why short change yourself w/ poor upkeep and performance.

There are 2 sheer bolt locations on this blower. One on the PTO shaft itself and one the cross shaft that goes from the gear box to the chain drive for the auger. I suppose they were thinking the sheer bolt on the PTO shaft would provide some protection for the fan, but this seems like a less than stellar design.

I've busted up a handful of sheer bolts. Especially the PTO shaft one b/c after the gearbox dieing last year I decided to run #2 bolts in both locations. The manual recommends #5 bolts on the PTO shaft but I figured a "softer" bolt would break easier hopefully sparing me this fate again. Was that a wrong assumption?

The week before this incident as I said before the blower was fully serviced. I didn't use a dial gauge but I did make sure the fan and auger turned true, spun very easily and were lubed. There was no play in the auger's movements and the tips of the fan blades are not bent or mangled and stay equidistant inside fan shroud when turning. In no way do they appear bent. The fan housing has some scrapes etc, but appears true and it decent shape.

The auger bearings run smooth and quiet and are lubed. With one finger you can easily spin the auger/fan and they are quiet and spin freely after you push them.

The chain is lubed and tensioned according to the manual. The sheer bolt in this spot was replaced w/ a new one. I use motorcycle chain lube that sheds water and does not "fling" when the chain is running. The drive shaft for the chain drive is not bent and in good shape.

The PTO shaft was taken apart, inspected, lubed and reinstalled w/ a new sheer bolt. It turns true and appears fine.

The gearbox was new near the end of last season. And no, I did not use the same oil as the first gear box. Completely new bottle. I removed the fill plug and made sure it was full.

I haven't inspected the gearbox closely yet b/c honestly I was too f'in pissed off and disgusted. I knew if I started inspecting it I'd simply get enraged and probably take a sledge hammer to it. But I can tell from the quick look that the fan shaft has broken b/c it's cock-eyed and puking oil all over my garage floor. Thank god for kitty litter. The shaft is what broke last year too, but it was not evident until the gearbox was removed b/c it was not cock-eyed like this one is and did not leak any oil.

I do make sure when running the blower to keep my PTO shaft angles w/in the accepted range and do not over-run the PTO. In fact I usually run a little lower than "PTO speed" simply because I hate sucking fuel. This breakage occurred at about 1900 rpm b/c it was barely 6" of snow and it was very light.

I guess I'll just have to tear it down, make sure nothing is bent or damaged and see what happens. Grrr....
j
 
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It will be interesting to know what happens with the grade 2 bolts. If the shear pins aren't breaking is it reasonable to assume that the stress is within the gearbox itself? Or perhaps another way of thinking of it... why isn't the stress on the shear pins?

Sure wish we could help..
 

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