Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs?

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   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #201  
When? Time of the year and where? I live and travel there a lot. I don’t recall seeing that happen. Are you sure they were harvestable soy beans and not cover crops or residual new growth?
I saw this in northeast Arkansas, eastern Missouri and southeastern Illinois. It was in the fall. I’m thinking 2018/19. Can’t remember the year. I saw many mature fields full of soybeans being turned under. I actually stopped and looked at the beans. This was during the height of the China embargo when they bought soybeans from Brazil. Much of the huge Midwestern grain industry is grown for export markets; far more than what the U.S. market demands.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs?
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You need to buy new equipment every year? You are kind of tough on your tools maybe you should learn how to use them correctly. A tractor should last a decade with proper maintenance many lasting a lifetime. Retrain your staff to change the oil at least once every generation or before the turn of the next century. Your post is comical, if you have a business, your tax accountant can steer you in the right direction. You need a better education on tax strategies and cost mitigation.

No, I don't need to buy a new tractor every year. I do maintain my equipment regularly, there's someone here on TBN whose sig line is "take the time to maintain your equipment or it will make the time for you". He's right.

The problem arises when I need to buy another attachment, many of which are made overseas (even Canada is considered "overseas"), or replacement parts, or if I need a bigger or additional tractor - which I well may in the next few years. The cost just took an arbitrary jump, and the additional cost doesn't buy me one more horsepower, any more reliability or capability, there is no value added.

I've owned multiple successful businesses over the last 50 years, and I am very familiar (sometimes more familiar than I want to be) with taxes, amortization, import/export, international finance, real estate development, law, construction, and have taught college level courses in some of these subjects. I am also not the Lone Ranger, I *always* use outside consultants and experts before I make any significant financial decision.

My objection is not to targeted tariffs. These can serve a purpose to protect US businesses against predatory prices and unfair competition from overseas vendors (or nations). My objection is to *blanket* tariffs on *everything* that comes from overseas. These only raise the costs to us, to you and to me me, without giving us any specific benefit. They also result in retaliatory tariffs from other countries, so not only do imported things cost more here, we will be selling fewer things overseas, and that will (further) damage our domestic economy.

Now if you want "comical", look at the suggestion that higher tariffs quote "MAY" unquote lower our income taxes. Aside from the "may" instead of a "will", and the total lack of a number or percentage that they "may" go down, taxes never, ever go down. Taxes are like crack cocaine for governments - there is never enough - they could get all there is in the world, and that still wouldn't be sufficient.

Here's another example of comical and wasteful tariff based cost increases. In 1969, I worked for the east coast importer of BMW automobiles (Max Hoffman, before BMWNA was formed at took it away from him). I ran the warranty department.

BMW was still finding their way in America, and they were amazed that anyone here actually wanted air conditioning in their cars. The solution was simple; install an aftermarket A/C unit at the factory.

These aftermarket A/C units were crafted by elves in the section of the Black Forest known as "Dallas, Texas" and were labeled "KuhlMeister" which I guess was the German translation of "CoolMaster".

The parts were shipped to Germany (where they incurred import duty), installed into the cars, which were shipped here (and incurred import duties again), so anyone who wanted A/C in their BMW 1600/2 paid duty on it twice - and it wasn't one single degree (F or C) cooler.

Products often cross borders for further processing or value added, often multiple borders, and then come back to the country of origin for sale. International trade is FAR too complex for arbitrary pronouncements.

Act in haste, repent at leisure.

With Best Regards,
Mike/Florida
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #203  
Gee Mike/Florida, you seem to know how to run a country, maybe you should throw your name in the hat in 2028...
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #204  
Woke up this morning to read that the Mexican President has agreed to stop the migrants crossing into the US through her country.
Nice if real. Where did you read that?

Another problem is that the population replacement in the US has fallen below replacement for more than a generation now. That is too long to turn around with higher birthrates, and has caused all kinds of economic projections to take a dive.

The US is going to have to make up for the downturn from somewhere ... if not with immigration from neighbors, with whom?

rScotty
 
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Gee Mike/Florida, you seem to know how to run a country, maybe you should throw your name in the hat in 2028...
Ohh, flattery! (Thank you!)

Actually, I have ZERO desire to be active in politics. I do, however occasionally do some consulting for local governments. (Sometimes I even get paid for it, not a lot and no trips to Hawaii, but whatever.)

What I see is that politicians have a tendency to go "Ready, fire, aim!" and then scurry about madly trying to fix the problems they caused (and blame it on someone else).

I try to work under the theory of "Ready, aim, fire!" and before that, take a good hard look at whether that is even necessary. Frequently it is not.

From time to time they listen to me . . . not that they DO anything as a result, but sometimes I have some small input into their decisions.

Do have a happy Thanksgiving, when the biggest problem we collectively face is trying not to eat too much!

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #207  
Ohh, flattery! (Thank you!)

Actually, I have ZERO desire to be active in politics. I do, however occasionally do some consulting for local governments. (Sometimes I even get paid for it, not a lot and no trips to Hawaii, but whatever.)

What I see is that politicians have a tendency to go "Ready, fire, aim!" and then scurry about madly trying to fix the problems they caused (and blame it on someone else).

I try to work under the theory of "Ready, aim, fire!" and before that, take a good hard look at whether that is even necessary. Frequently it is not.

From time to time they listen to me . . . not that they DO anything as a result, but sometimes I have some small input into their decisions.

Do have a happy Thanksgiving, when the biggest problem we collectively face is trying not to eat too much!

Best Regards,
Mike/Florida
It was sarcasm, lol
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #208  
Woke up this morning to read that the Mexican President has agreed to stop the migrants crossing into the US through her country.
Where?
Well, now that's about what one would expect.

A good Thanksgiving News Recipe is to take one issue each of the NY Post & NY Times, blend well, and divide into equal servings.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #209  
I think people conflate immigration, with illegal immigration. Immigration is great. A steady flow of people TRYING to avoid being detected, is not.

My favorite pilot/student I have ever flown with, came here from Iraq, when he was 18, alone, barely knowing the language. Went to an aviation university, 6 years later he was an airline pilot in the US and the most humble and thankful American I have ever met. Most citizens could learn a lot from people like him.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #210  
Where?

Well, now that's about what one would expect.

A good Thanksgiving News Recipe is to take one issue each of the NY Post & NY Times, blend well, and divide into equal servings.
do you want me to give 10 more links so you feel better?
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #211  
Hold onto your tractor seats
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #212  
Woke up this morning to read that the Mexican President has agreed to stop the migrants crossing into the US through her country.
YUP,
The smart people had this notion all along. Glad they will soon be fully in charge. seems all these second guessers and self-anointed economical experts in this forum just have a personal vendetta. The start of this thread suggested that as well.

Also for those that don't think government policies and regulations are not a significant player in inflation....well lets just say we know better.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #213  
Woke up this morning to read that the Mexican President has agreed to stop the migrants crossing into the US through her country.

Too little too late. She can pay the bill to deport all the illegals back to Mexico that crossed the Mexican border
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #214  
YUP,
The smart people had this notion all along. Glad they will soon be fully in charge. seems all these second guessers and self-anointed economical experts in this forum just have a personal vendetta. The start of this thread suggested that as well.

Also for those that don't think government policies and regulations are not a significant player in inflation....well lets just say we know better.
Government policies and regulations always affect inflation. I think many of us are saying that that are other things that create inflation as well, and some are arguing that the free market can never be responsible for inflation. Both interact and affect inflation.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #216  
A good Thanksgiving News Recipe is to take one issue each of the NY Post & NY Times, blend well, and divide into equal servings.
It was on several news stations....and online platforms. "Just the News" posted a Reuters report that Sheinbauam said they discussed illegal immigration and drug trafficking....according to her no agreement was reached. (Political posturing the norm.)

She is a socialist so promotion of open borders is what they are known for....At least there is dialog but her open borders become our problem as they just pass them on through with help from our government sponsored NGOs and Cartels.....She said "Mexico's stance is to not close borders, but to build bridges between governments and their peoples" We saw how that worked in socialist Europe, so take that for whats its worth? The after thought in Europe, not much.

Open borders along with closed borders are broad brushes....Come though legally and the border is open. Come through illegally the border is closed. Hope this is where they are at?...... She needs to represent her people and not the cartels....They are entrenched into their society and have all the power.

stopping the flow is essential. This is what the people of the USA want.
 
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   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #217  
Too little too late. She can pay the bill to deport all the illegals back to Mexico that crossed the Mexican border
Yup, them horses are out of the barn and roaming the plains of the USA. Fields of hay and alfalfa and bags of of high quality grain at their disposal.

that said the Cartels own them and they never pay their bills.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #218  
In the past there has been a minimum purchase amount for tariffs. Somewhere around $1000.

If you purchase repair parts direct from China (eBay, Alibaba, AliExpress, Amazon,etc), you won't need to pay the tariffs.

Local retailers will love that.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #219  
Inflation rate is an overall average of many things, not just groceries. Some things are obviously selling for a lot more than the average rate, while other things haven’t increased as much.
Computers have gotten better, but the prices haven't gone up for almost 40 years.
 
   / Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs? #220  
SNIP....

Open borders along with closed borders are broad brushes....Come though legally and the border is open. Come through illegally the border is closed. Hope this is where they are at?...... She needs to represent her people and not the cartels....They are entrenched into their society and have all the power.

stopping the flow is essential. This is what the people of the USA want.

According to the Brookings Institute, the US needs some immigration to offset the country's population declne in the last 20 years. Not too much or too few, but in the region of a million per year to maintain current levels. That's simple demographics and hard to refute.

And similarly, according to the office of Homeland Security studies, the current number of illegals is estimated to be about eleven million per year.

I don't think that connecting tariffs with immigration is the answer to either problem, but agree the problems are real. It's also easier to define a problem than a solution. I doubt that tariffs are going to help with that problem - or with any large problem.
rScotty


 
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