Tractor Insurance?

/ Tractor Insurance? #21  
We run an Equine Boarding Facility in north Florida and my insurer just asked for VIN's on my equipment. Then an addendum for it all at no increase in premium.
I find it odd that y'all are having all these increases.
Counting my Blessings.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #22  
Is this insurance required since there is a bank note on the tractor? Is this a requirement like having full coverage on a vehicle since it is financed?

When I purchased my previous financed tractor on credit I had to show / have insurance. I added it to my homeowners policy and provided the info to finance company.

We run an Equine Boarding Facility in north Florida and my insurer just asked for VIN's on my equipment. Then an addendum for it all at no increase in premium.
I find it odd that y'all are having all these increases.
Counting my Blessings.

As mentioned, my last tractor was covered by HO insurance but later I found out HO insurance does not cover my tractors if they leave my property which is why I bought PDI (physical damage insurance) which covers my tractors / attachments while on or off my property. Plus, when working on someone else's property, liability ins. is also good to have.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #23  
Is this insurance required since there is a bank note on the tractor? Is this a requirement like having full coverage on a vehicle since it is financed?

most banks will require physical damage insurance at least during the term of the note. They often provide it themselves, like Kubota did on my zero interest loan,
or you can buy it lots of places. Normally called an equipment floater, you can add coverage sometimes to your homeowners for everything but business use.
I guarantee your homeowners insurer will deny any claim arising out of business pursuits. And whoever told you gifts were ok...be careful. That's compensation...
I'm a retired insurance underwriter and used to teach these policies word by word to trainees. Really boring stuff, and what's most important is the liability end.
Be very careful about who is driving your equipment and whether onsite or off. Policies are pretty clear on this what they will pay for and what not. Usually if you go off premises, unless to another property you own, you need what historically has been called inland marine coverage. You can go anywhere with specified coverage, but always always watch the exclusions. Have your insurance agent clearly tell you what is NOT covered. And WHO is not covered. And WHERE.
I let my BIL drive my Kubota on my own land yesterday and I was fine. But would I let my friendly local fireman who runs a landscape business on the side borrow my tractor? no no no Not without lots of hold harmless agreements signed. And they don't always hold up. Say the guy you lended your tractor goes postal and goes on a ramming spree. Good luck...

Umbrella policies are excellent, have had a large one for almost forty years. But they have exclusions too and business pursuits is usually one of them.

Everything is fine until it isn't. When people get hurt, understandings can get forgotten ,sometimes out of desperate need. Sure you don't want your tractor burning up and not being covered. The bank however usually has what's called a "single interest" coverage on the policy, meaning if you really screw up and do something invalidating your coverage, the bank gets paid because they had a legitimate interest and they did nothing wrong.

I have been offered money time and time again to do little jobs. Tractors do so much...but I always say no. I'm not losing my retirement to some lawsuit.
I once said I'd do a job for a homemade apple pie. Hopefully that would not stand up in court as compensation...my it was good.
 
/ Tractor Insurance?
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#24  
Would you please state who you got this coverage from? What is the amount covered, etc.?


I got it from the CNH link provided on page 1 of this thread. $17K on the tractor and $3K on the loader is how they wrote it on a 2004 kubota L3430 HSTC with loader

Here's the contact info.......

Karla Monticelli

Sales Coordinator

CNH Industrial Insurance Agency Inc.

10411 Corporate Drive, Suite 200

Pleasant Prairie, WI 53158

Direct: 262.891.6087

Fax: 262.636.4949

Toll-Free Support: 866.559.6814

Karla.monticelli@cnhagency.com

Agency Email: insurance@cnhagency.com
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #25  
I don't carry it anymore but I paid about $280 for an inland marine policy through Chubb on my 2007 Kioti DK40se with loader and Woods BH valued at about $30K.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #26  
How many people would not have insurance if the tractor is paid for and it does not leave the property?
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #28  
I am in the process of buying a new tractor for about $46K out the door. Auto Owners will add it to my home policy [ only fire and theft ] over and above my normal insurance for about $60 a year. I have a umbrella policy to cover my actions both on and off my property, NOT FOR HIRE. My 2011 Mahindra has Mahindra comprehensive for six years for about $800. Which is similar to most tractor manufacturer loan insurance premiums on damage/fire/theft. When my six years runs out, I will add it to my home owners policy for fire and theft.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #29  
My agent recommended an "Inland Marine" policy.Cost $157/year for on my own property only.Needed VIN numbers of tractor ,loader,implements:approximately $40,000 coverage.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #30  
That's why I cancelled mine.

For most folks, it's treated as normal household contents, machinery to maintain the residence, like a big lawnmower, and the limit is the contents limit on your homeowners.
Now try to claim a burned up 200hp tractor on your homeowners might be a stretch...not too many people have utility tractors that big. But when my required coverage on my Kubota falls off next year, I won't replace it either. No sense covering something twice.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #31  
My agent recommended an "Inland Marine" policy.Cost $157/year for on my own property only.Needed VIN numbers of tractor ,loader,implements:approximately $40,000 coverage.

honestly this makes no sense. The whole reason for this coverage is to move equipment and goods and have it be insured for transport damage or theft.
Inland Marine was not designed for the home premises though one could insure that way. This stuff is priced per thousand of coverage usually with a minimum premium.
The rate quoted may not cover business use, but moving your tractor off premises for non business use should be the primary reason for being insured this way. And if you transport your equipment for business use, it's the same policy perhaps marked commercial and depending upon the size ,might be more or less costly per thousand of coverage. Your local tractor dealers for sure carry this coverage for equipment delivery.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #32  
I don't insure my tractor. It lives inside my locked barn with an alarm system at my house behind locked gates. The odds of something happening to it are not worth the premiums to me. I am not against insurance and I have a lot of insurance on other things but I view this as so low of a risk I don't bother. If I left it outside at an unattended location I would think differently.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #33  
I don't insure my tractor. It lives inside my locked barn with an alarm system at my house behind locked gates. The odds of something happening to it are not worth the premiums to me. I am not against insurance and I have a lot of insurance on other things but I view this as so low of a risk I don't bother. If I left it outside at an unattended location I would think differently.

I certainly understand where you are coming from bdog. We've always insured our farm tractors. Over 50 years. Never had one stolen or caught on fire It happens but rare. I guess that is why Farm Credit did not require it when I financed my new tractor with them. I met yesterday with our Farm Bureau agent. We've still got insurance on our old Allis Chalmers D-17's. I think the rate is $7 per year per tractor for 2K coverage.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #34  
Have to wake up this thread again. I cant find reasonable insurance for my CAT Track Loader. Sure CAT Financial will insure it for $1100 a year, but I just use it around my home, never goes off private property. Homeowners won't insure it. There has to be something cheaper than $1100. Does anyone know of an insurance company that will insure New Jersey residents?
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #35  
Have to wake up this thread again. I cant find reasonable insurance for my CAT Track Loader. Sure CAT Financial will insure it for $1100 a year, but I just use it around my home, never goes off private property. Homeowners won't insure it. There has to be something cheaper than $1100. Does anyone know of an insurance company that will insure New Jersey residents?

Rules of thumb here and you are smart to ask for NJ. Seems you have talked with your homeowner company and gotten a no, first place I would go.
Ask your auto company some do some odd things.
Ask dealer for recommendation IF they do not sell it. Which seems your does.
Call your state Department of Insurance and ask if they can tell you who does. May can or may not..Depends on how they identify what a company sells.
Call an independent agency in a farming community.
Watch for popup adds on equipment search and also in tractor sales magazines.
Farm Bureau does in many states, they may require another line of insurance.
The insurance through the dealer may be broader coverage then such as a homeowner which is normally only covering for theft or fire or such. Some tractor companies insurance also cover damage like an auto policy does.
Sentry insurance company also insurance tractors for at least my JD dealership.
Hope that helps.
No doubt you could get a commercial policy but that sounds like the price you have been given.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #36  
Have to wake up this thread again. I cant find reasonable insurance for my CAT Track Loader. Sure CAT Financial will insure it for $1100 a year, but I just use it around my home, never goes off private property. Homeowners won't insure it. There has to be something cheaper than $1100. Does anyone know of an insurance company that will insure New Jersey residents?

You can call CNH and see if they will quote you cat. I have my LS tractor insured thru them.
PHYSICAL DAMAGE INSURANCE* | CNH Industrial Capital
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #37  
What you need is an inland marine policy. We have one with everything from heavy equipment to computers covered. It generally costs 2% of the insured items value per year.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #38  
as long as the equipment is used on site for maintenance of the home premises, and not for commercial enterprise (not a working farm)
, there is no exclusion in the homeowner policy for a track loaders on contents.
No you won't get breakage or breakdown coverage. But if the unit burns up or is stolen, yes a homeowners will cover it, subject to the maximum limit on your policy for Coverage C.
If you buy replacement cost coverage on contents, the limit for contents gets bumped to 70 percent of the building value. If you have a 500K home, that means you have 350K in contents coverage....

Shogor, welcome!
I'm a retired insurance underwriter and agent. Times change but sometimes things stay the same...

an inland marine policy is all risk, usually better than a homeowners. Same type of coverage you put on your wife's engagement ring. Covers you anywhere you go, including off premises, unit falls off trailer, etc. If you leave your home premises with that unit, unlikely you have any coverage now.

My Kubota comes off the Kubota all risk coverage required in two months, thankfully the unit is now paid off, but now I'm facing the same situation with both my tractors.
They are in the barn, removed from the home. Yes maybe a twister could take it all. The question is do you have enough total coverage to get you back in shape again.

This is very basic, low hazard insurance that most companies would want to write. Inland Marine is usually quite profitable to the insurers at their 1 to 2 percent rate.
Keep calling around.

(realized I repeated stuff from earlier post, sorry, while ago)
 
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/ Tractor Insurance? #39  
Thanks for that information, it gives me something to argue with Allstate about. I asked them why is the track loader any different than the lawn tractor, they simply refused to accept it. I will keep checking around for an Inland Marine policy, 1 percent would work 2 percent puts it back up to what CAT Financial wants.
 
/ Tractor Insurance? #40  
Thanks to everybody for their replies. Yes the CAT dealer sells it, its commercial and way too high because they cover all risk.
I will give Sentry a call, thanks.
 

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