Price Check tractor hours..!
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CreekyB
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MORRISONSTEEL
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New simply means it still meets the oem and/or financier's classification of new, hours can vary quite a bit and still be sold as new.
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sikmusicfreak8
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Def under 10 or so, else it would be a demo I would think, or plain used.
jeff9366
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Diesel tractor engines should go 12,000 engine hours with timely maintenance.
How important is 3, 6, 11 or 26 engine hours?
Negotiate any unhappiness or doubts you have in a reduced price.
How important is 3, 6, 11 or 26 engine hours?
Negotiate any unhappiness or doubts you have in a reduced price.
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davrow
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What Jeff9366 said. Mine had 14. I wouldn't dream of negotiating until it had at least 30 or 40 hours. And even at 40, I'd just ask them to throw in the first maintenance before delivery.
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AxleHub
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I would say there are 3 different perspectives that define "new":
1. Dealer sees new as full warranty and never a registered prior owner.
2. Buyer sees it as #1 plus its cosmettically perfect and hours on the unit less than (5 , 4, 3, 2 ????).
3. Outsider sees it as #1 plus #2 plus identical features and appearance as the calendar model year.
In my experience . . manufactered year does not mean model year. The tractor naming/numbering indicates model change ir alteration. A Kubota BX 2370 is a different model than a BX 2370-1 whether both models are built in the same calendar year. On a Massey GC1715 part of 2014, 15, and 16 the same model exissts because everything is the same
1. Dealer sees new as full warranty and never a registered prior owner.
2. Buyer sees it as #1 plus its cosmettically perfect and hours on the unit less than (5 , 4, 3, 2 ????).
3. Outsider sees it as #1 plus #2 plus identical features and appearance as the calendar model year.
In my experience . . manufactered year does not mean model year. The tractor naming/numbering indicates model change ir alteration. A Kubota BX 2370 is a different model than a BX 2370-1 whether both models are built in the same calendar year. On a Massey GC1715 part of 2014, 15, and 16 the same model exissts because everything is the same
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thank you for replying....well answered and thx for the info..
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I agree w/ davrow.
But think - what is an hour? Different tractors track hours in various ways. My B7610 needs to be running at full PTO speed for an hour to register. So when I run my backhoe I'll probably put an hour on in an hour and a half. When I'm moving gravel and my son is loading the bucket with a shovel while the tractor idles it might take two or three hours to register an hour.
Some tractors register an hour whenever the key is turned on for an hour, thus if somebody left the key turned on but the engine NOT running over a weekend you could crank up 48 hours on the meter.
But think - what is an hour? Different tractors track hours in various ways. My B7610 needs to be running at full PTO speed for an hour to register. So when I run my backhoe I'll probably put an hour on in an hour and a half. When I'm moving gravel and my son is loading the bucket with a shovel while the tractor idles it might take two or three hours to register an hour.
Some tractors register an hour whenever the key is turned on for an hour, thus if somebody left the key turned on but the engine NOT running over a weekend you could crank up 48 hours on the meter.
roadhunter
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Seems like there is no good reason for there to be very many hours on a new tractor unless it was moved in and out every day or something like that. Simply unloading and letting people test drive wouldn't add up to much. Makes you wonder if it was returned or used to move snow in the dealers lot if it had many hours.
jenkinsph
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I would not be bothered by 10 hours on the meter. If something is going to fail due to improper assembly or defective parts I would rather have that happen while the dealer owns it.
Cranedaddy
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Mine had 2.1 hours. I wouldn't pay a new tractor price for a tractor with more than 8 hours. 8 hours is a full work day, that's used.
grm61
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To the OP, my tractor had 1 hour on it.
I had it ordered in from the factory, I was adamant that I did not want a demo, or a rental, or a unit that had sat outside for a long period of time.
New is new.
If there was no weather damage 8 or 10 hours would OK, JMO.
I had it ordered in from the factory, I was adamant that I did not want a demo, or a rental, or a unit that had sat outside for a long period of time.
New is new.
If there was no weather damage 8 or 10 hours would OK, JMO.
AxleHub
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Focusing only on tractor hours is not in my opinion, the best reasoning. While we all want as few minutes on the clock before we take possession.
When I was looking . . I found a Massey GC1705 . . New onthe dealer lot. It was a 2013 manufacture date with 1.2 hrs. and I was looking at it in April 2015. But the unit had been outside on display only 30 feet from the highway. The engine was "rusty" . . I assume winter salt spray effects. And sun affects.
The point I'm emphasizing is . . price, condition, feature changes, warranty conditions, servicing abilities etc. etc. . . purchasing a new or used tractor is many things to evaluate on a per item basis. Jmho
When I was looking . . I found a Massey GC1705 . . New onthe dealer lot. It was a 2013 manufacture date with 1.2 hrs. and I was looking at it in April 2015. But the unit had been outside on display only 30 feet from the highway. The engine was "rusty" . . I assume winter salt spray effects. And sun affects.
The point I'm emphasizing is . . price, condition, feature changes, warranty conditions, servicing abilities etc. etc. . . purchasing a new or used tractor is many things to evaluate on a per item basis. Jmho
davrow
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When I was shopping I went to the 3-day Ag Expo to check out lots of tractors in one place. It's big, and they were using brand new Masseys to pull trams around. But the dealer couldn't call them new anymore and was offering significant discounts for tractors that would have 15 to 30 hours on them. And you could see how "hard" they had worked during all those hours.
That's probably the main reason I still think of 30 hours as "practically" new.
That's probably the main reason I still think of 30 hours as "practically" new.
