Tractor/Atv dump trailer

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Oh yeah, I never looked at them side by side like that. The 3500lb winch does seem to have a much better design. Its also twice a much. I got the 2500lb at a parking lot sale for open box $20. I wasn't ever going to buy one at the $50 they cost. But I couldn't pass it up for $20. I took the 2500lb winch off my quad and I am just waiting for a project to put it on because honestly, I don't think ill never actually need it to "recover" my quad.
 
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#22  
I have 5 of the 2500 and 3500 winches mounted on quads all are pretty powerful and never had problems with any of them even those on plow machines. I am trying a 2500 on the trailer and if it isn't up to it they always have a 5000 on their shelves.
 
   / Tractor/Atv dump trailer #23  
I have 5 of the 2500 and 3500 winches mounted on quads all are pretty powerful and never had problems with any of them even those on plow machines. I am trying a 2500 on the trailer and if it isn't up to it they always have a 5000 on their shelves.

It's unlikely that lifting a plow puts enough force on the cable to wedge it down between the spool and the edge of the frame. So in that application, about the only way I could see it happening is if you got so much slack in the cable that you ended up with a tangled bird's nest, threw a loop over, and the tangle provided enough drag to pull the cable down. Plus, typically when you are raising and lowering a plow, you are sitting right there and can see a problem before it becomes severe.

I'm not saying the 2500# winch is worthless. They are a great value if the power and speed suits your needs (especially if you use one of the coupons to get it at $50). You just have to be more careful to make sure it's spooling properly. You may run it dozens of times without a problem, but that one time that it doesn't quite spool back properly can be a real pain in the butt if the cable pulls down outside the spool. With the wireless remote that comes with these winches, there is more of a chance you will not be standing right by to see it happen and stop pulling in time to avoid the problem. HF Badlands 2500# winch is not the only one that shares this design. Northern Tool sells an Ironton 2500# ATV winch of similar design that has the same problems. It just seems to be a feature of winches at that price point (I would not be surprised if these winches are made in some of the same Chinese factories).

This is far less likely to happen with the 3500# and larger Badlands winches. It's just a trade off: is it worth more $$ to the end user to avoid those problems (and get a bit more power and speed) or not. In some applications, it will make no difference.
 
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It's unlikely that lifting a plow puts enough force on the cable to wedge it down between the spool and the edge of the frame. So in that application, about the only way I could see it happening is if you got so much slack in the cable that you ended up with a tangled bird's nest, threw a loop over, and the tangle provided enough drag to pull the cable down. Plus, typically when you are raising and lowering a plow, you are sitting right there and can see a problem before it becomes severe.

I'm not saying the 2500# winch is worthless. They are a great value if the power and speed suits your needs (especially if you use one of the coupons to get it at $50). You just have to be more careful to make sure it's spooling properly. You may run it dozens of times without a problem, but that one time that it doesn't quite spool back properly can be a real pain in the butt if the cable pulls down outside the spool. With the wireless remote that comes with these winches, there is more of a chance you will not be standing right by to see it happen and stop pulling in time to avoid the problem. HF Badlands 2500# winch is not the only one that shares this design. Northern Tool sells an Ironton 2500# ATV winch of similar design that has the same problems. It just seems to be a feature of winches at that price point (I would not be surprised if these winches are made in some of the same Chinese factories).

This is far less likely to happen with the 3500# and larger Badlands winches. It's just a trade off: is it worth more $$ to the end user to avoid those problems (and get a bit more power and speed) or not. In some applications, it will make no difference.

I follow what your saying and what your saying is correct with a 2500 HF. I rats nested a warn 2500 on a plow quad once myself and it used the more standard 4 bolt mounting. Definitely operator error on that one, oops haha. It happens.
 
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#25  
Pretty much ready for testing. The goal will be able to dump 3 bucketfulls from the BX of dirt or rock. We will see. 0403191412.jpeg
 
   / Tractor/Atv dump trailer #26  
nice. you could use the pole and winch to drag a tree stump or piece of equipment up there too. I like it.
 
   / Tractor/Atv dump trailer #28  
You did pretty much the same as I did on my ATV trailer.
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The difference is I have the Warn Multi Mount system on my ATV so I can move the winch from the front to the back of the ATV. I do need to change mine so I can tip the trailer up a bit further. To do that I will build a scissor system under the trailer.
 
   / Tractor/Atv dump trailer #29  
Are you using an on board battery or something else?

I was wondering the same thing... But I like it. Looks good. I don't think I will be able to use much of your design for mine because I am really trying to go the stand alone hydraulic route but we will see it I can actually make it work. I may have to use the winch even if I don't want to.
 
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I have one of these, Polaris made it, pretty indestructible..
 

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