Top N Tilt Cost

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JLoaf

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Location
White Co., ARKANSAS
Tractor
Kubota L3830 DT & B2710
I have an L3830 with no remotes. I really want a TNT for my tractor. How much is the Kubota set up?
How much for the TCC - Terrain Contour Control from Integration Engineering?
Which is better?
Any other options?
 
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For the Kubota supplied parts, 2 remotes (L8305/L8306/L8303/L8303) will set you back $1000 and 3 (add an L8307/L8303) will set you back $1400. The Hydraulic top link cylinder and the tilt cylinder with hoses (L8326) will set you back another $700. These are MSRP without installation.

The TCC setup which is essentially 2 remotes operated with a joystick, mounting hardware, hoses, top link and tilt cylinders will set you back about $1250. I am not sure if the TCC setup uses any of the Kubota remote parts but I think it doesn't.
 
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If I was buying an L-series Kubota I would opt for 2 Kubota rear remotes since they mount in the factory slots and purchase the cylinders from other sources. The top link would come from CCM and the tilt link would come from Prince or Surplus Center. Hoses and fittings would come from hydraulichosefittings.com.
 
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I added the kubota factory kit to my L3830 for about a little over $1500.
This price was for two valves, two stacking rear remotes, and the kubota cylinders with hoses and quick connects. Installed it myself.
There are other ways to accomplish the same thing, it was just easier for me to have the dealer procure everything I needed. It all fit right the first time and I didn't have to chase down pieces from different suppliers.
 
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I was told that the Kubota control valves are manufactured by Parker. I was wondering if anyone knew what the Parker model numbers are for these valves?
 
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The valves used on the L-Series are custom to this application and install directly to the tractor castings. I don't think they can be used anywhere else. Similar setup to the New Hollands.

Now the valves used for the B-series Kubota kit may in fact be made to Kubota specs by Parker. However, I cannot find them listed anywhere. This is probably the same situation as the loader valve where it is made by Husco but not available to the general public as a catalog or orderable item except from Kubota.
 
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Thanks for all the input.
Is the installation on both of these fairly straightforward?
Does Kubota use 2 levers to operate?
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Is the installation on both of these fairly straightforward?
Does Kubota use 2 levers to operate? )</font>

1. yes but you should remove the rear tire to aid in access for installation.

2. yes
 
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When I purchased my L3830 I had the dealer install top and tilt. I had a problem with drift or leak-down with the OEM cylinders. The dealer replaced the valves and the top link cylinder. The problem still existed. I then removed the OEM cylinders and installed a top link and side link cylinder from TCC. (Top And Tilt) The TCC cylinders have pilot valves. I no longer have a problem with leak-down or drift. I like the way the Kubota valves install on the tractor. My recommendation would to be purchase the control valves, mounting bracket etc, for the outlet ports from Kubota. I would then contact TCC ( Top And Tilt) about purchasing the cylinders. CCM (Carter & Carter Machinery) also sells hydraulic cylinders with pilot valves. If you decide to do the installation of the valves you will need to remove the seat, plate underneath the seat, right rear tire and the right rear fender. The hydraulic outlet for the valves is underneath the seat.
 
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I'd confirm the $1250 price of the TCC. Just heard from the company today.

If using the tractor control valves, i.e. for the loader the rams and hoses, etc. are under $600.

Sure sounds like a good addition to have.
 
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True.........if you already have two remotes and levers, then you only need the cylinders and hoses.
 
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Hi Mad
I am in the process of adding the top n tilt to my B7500. I have the 2 remotes on the back and need to order the cylinders. But what sizes are required? And, I am just guessing here, but do I have to order a standard tilt rod from Kubota and cut the ends off and weld them to the new cylinder? Also I have read about flow restrictors and pilot relief valves. Are these needed or do they just make life a little easier?

Thanks
Al
 
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Call Mark Carter at CCM (www.ccmachinery.com) and get one of his top links with the pilot operated check valves. Price will be $170 + shipping. He also sells hose kits but you can do better at www.hydraulichosefittings.com. I recommend 1/4 inch hoses.

The tilt link is another story. If you really want/need one then you have 2 options as I see it. Either get the TCC tilt link from Integration Engineering or make one yourself that will more approximate the geometry on your B7500.

There are several good recent posts on TNT. Here and Here .

I would get the top link first and then decide if you need the tilt.
 
 

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