Tool Stuff, That I Was NEVER Taught, EVEN After 70 YEARS!!

[dfkrug]

"...Phillips should have been dead and forgotten decades ago, can't understand that a so bad design still is used..."

Philips head is hardly ideal, but they replaced slotted screw heads in the sheet metal and woodworking worlds. They were a big improvement, but conventional hex head is pretty good.

 

[Agvg]

"...Phillips should have been dead and forgotten decades ago, can't understand that a so bad design still is used..."

Philips head is hardly ideal, but they replaced slotted screw heads in the sheet metal and woodworking worlds. They were a big improvement, but conventional hex head is pretty good.

Yes, it was an improvement when the T ford was produced, but Ford replaced the T but this Phillips junk remains. PZ is much better in all kinds of ways

 

[Agvg]

For all kinds of cheap non std screws from Asia and std Phillips I find reduced Phillips bits works better.

 

[jigs_n_fixtures]

And it's a proper design that works, Phillips should have been dead and forgotten decades ago, can't understand that a so bad design still is used, both are of course a inferior design now that Torx is available.

The Phillips is easier to make, and thus les expensive than a torx. It doesn’t matter much if your buying an handful of screws. Starts to matter when you buy them by the millions.

 

[Agvg]

The Phillips is easier to make, and thus les expensive than a torx. It doesn’t matter much if your buying an handful of screws. Starts to matter when you buy them by the millions.

PZ drive works much better and should not be particularly more expensive, a screw design that handles torque so badly as Phillips is pure junk and thankful it's almost dead for all serious use.

 

[KennyG]

The poor torque capability of the Phillips is a design feature. It was intended to be used on assembly lines to prevent over-torquing and thread stripping. Unfortunately it then found it's way into all kinds of other applications.

 

[Dragonpharm]

Those motorcycle screws, ha. Wide flat bottom and soft too. I can still remember those on my 1972 Honda Trail 70. It didn’t take a 12 year old too long to strip them out even with that dinky reversable red handled screwdriver that came in the kit. Me and three friends each got one for Christmas. We were badazzes.

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Loved my Trail 70. Wish my parents had kept it. They are worth a fortune now relatively. Definitely agree the tool kit that came with it was more aggravating than useful. So much so that it would have almost been better without. However, almost every tool kit that comes with a motorcycle or ATV is relatively useless. My wife's Honda ATV kit isn't horrible at least.

 

[Agvg]

Hmm, the idea that it's a design goal to make Phillips screws cam over is a myth says people that have read the patent papers, just a bad design.

The cursed Phillips Screw… - Open Bench Project

How did the Phillips screw permiate our lives, and why has it stuck around when it is so easily stripped and there are such better options out there?

obportland.org

 

[ruffdog]

Years ago, my hobby was working on atvs, motorcycles, snowmobiles, cars, etc. and I found out early on that better tools solved most problems with fasteners. Even with straight bladed screwdrivers, a good fit makes a big difference. For very tight #3 phillips screws, I use a good fitting bit with my Snap-on manual impact.

Snap-On PB108A Impact Driver Set | eBay

 

[k0ua]

So, did you know that the coupler on a grease gun is adjustable?