Todays shop time.

[BukitCase]

Wow, Richard - between you and OP-05, it's a good thing the LAST 34 years before I retired were with Steelworkers - otherwise I'd hafta fill out one of these :laughing:
http://drewtoma.com/assets/misc/Hurt-Feelings-Report.pdf
And yes, there were a couple wusses who actually GOT one of these; they weren't amused, but DID get the point.

Which is - When you're dealing with things that're big, heavy, glowing red, grinding up things the size of cars, and/or containing any of several different acids including HydroFlouric, Nitric, Sulfuric, HydroChloric at concentrations up to 100%, solvents that make MEK look benign, forge presses that routinely squish ingots weighing up to 20 tons, etc, the ONLY "feelings" that help are the ones that keep reminding you "I don't wanna die today" -

All of which is probably why, when I was welding some of the structures in the pics and "Mrs. Bukit" reminded me to be careful, I had to remind her that I'd routinely worked on stuff that was 80 feet or more HIGHER than that and was still alive

Gotta finish breakfast, new weld cart ain't gonna build itself... Steve

 

[bigtiller]

Wow, Richard - between you and OP-05, it's a good thing the LAST 34 years befor I retired were with Steelworkers - otherwise I'd hafta fill out one of these :laughing:
http://drewtoma.com/assets/misc/Hurt-Feelings-Report.pdf
And yes, there were a couple wusses who actually GOT one of these; they weren't amused, but DID get the point. Steve

Good one! That's worth a piece of paper from the printer.

 

[Oldpath05]

"someone has some engineering and welding skills, cant be you cause you dont have the metal working shop made yet."

Actually, I kinda can - the metal shop is so I can spread out a bit and take up less room in the garage - I've done quite a few different things in 72 years, including teaching electronics in the military, working in several different video companies, designing recording studios, playing several music instruments, playing in a few bands, building my own house years ago, building a 3/4 mile road to that place across fairly steep hills, building a few race engines, being service manager for 2 companies in Hawaii, yadayada; then moved back to Oregon, union shops in rare metals (1 company for 9 years, second one for 25 - worked as instrumentation tech, that job required some physics, chemistry, electronics, pneumatics, hydraulics, process tuning, measuring everything that CAN be measured and a few that CAN'T -

Then the last 10 years there I ran a 9 man maintenance crew (including me) - 2 electricians, 2 millwrights, 2 pipe fitters, 2 welders and me -

Now, since there's no union telling me I can't weld, wire, plumb, beat on stuff, etc, I do what I dang-well please (some of the time)

You might have missed a few things I posted in JeepnFord's weld table thread, but I'll put a few more up to stimulate the shop time thread -
More to come... Steve

YOU'RE HIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for pictures, you got 12 years on me, not familiar with that Jeep Fords thread or your avatar's name, that could be my fault I keep forgetting to take my memory pills but think I'll remember it now.

It looks like you're a good square tubing fabricator, I like square tubing it's strong and easy to fit together. So I take it that the two containers are together, a square tube truss roof, metal roofing over that and end up with a double wide container metal shop with some sort of floor, not a fan of a dirt floor, now is that somewhat the idea? Now these are together there is a wall in the middle, putting a big doorway though that? Great work Steve...............

 

[Oldpath05]

Wow, Richard - between you and OP-05, it's a good thing the LAST 34 years before I retired were with Steelworkers - otherwise I'd hafta fill out one of these :laughing:
http://drewtoma.com/assets/misc/Hurt-Feelings-Report.pdf
And yes, there were a couple wusses who actually GOT one of these; they weren't amused, but DID get the point.
Gotta finish breakfast, new weld cart ain't gonna build itself... Steve

That a good one, I'm gonna see if my Daughter knows how to print that off, I'd like to pass those forms around at the shipyard, to the ones that think they're working in a pillow factory. Weld cart? what happen to the container shop renovation, did I miss that too............

 

[ovrszd]

That a good one, I'm gonna see if my Daughter knows how to print that off, I'd like to pass those forms around at the shipyard, to the ones that think they're working in a pillow factory. Weld cart? what happen to the container shop renovation, did I miss that too............

I gave it to my Son who works in the Parts Department of a multi brand auto dealership. There's a specific mechanic there that needs to fill out this form.

 

[BukitCase]

Nope, not quite; I can see where things coulda got confusing - the shot of the green container is the only thing with a roof (yet) - it's a 20', roof is 24'x24', which leaves an open covered area about 14'x24' with 11' headroom, so I can get my 580B in there this winter - 7 cylinders need kits, brakes barely work, diff lock stopped this summer, and more hydraulic changes (diverter valves, couple more articulation options, custom QA system for loader so I can swap bucket/grapple/pallet forks/brush forks/brush bucket in about 30 seconds, 'nuther couple minutes for anything with hydraulics involved -

The OTHER container area is down behind my shop, 2 40 footers end to end - one's getting all the "inventory" that's in my way in the wood shop, other's getting the bridge crane/small weld table/mig/tig/stick/plasma (all of which are inverter based and can run on the 30 amp 240 that's available NOW, plus the milling machine, slip roll and 20 ton press. Everything that's NOT weld-related will be curtained off at the back half of the container.

Since I already have ample air at the wood shop, I'll run a conduit across the 12 foot alley-way that's big enough for air hose AND 120-240 power, and put a small panel inside the weld area rather than mess with extension cords and hoses.

I started a thread yesterday on the container weld shop, so far just cutting down a freebie to make a small-footprint cart for the new MM211 (inverter) mig since my mm252 appears to be able to do maybe 14 gauge on the limited power...

The plasma is already sitting on a rollaway with air filter setup and there's room on top for the little programmable tig/stick machine to sit on top, so that should help congestion a bit.

I'm pretty sure I'm gonna skin the wood floor with 16 ga. steel for at least the front half of the container rather than take a chance on sparks, got 3 sheets of it now so another 3 should do it - another $170 is worth it NOT to hafta have a firewatch... Steve

 

[BukitCase]

BTW, I DID get a LITTLE done on the "Crane-Tainer" (nice ring to it, huh?? :laughing: )

Managed to make little pieces outa big ones - mostly "shelves" for the integrated steel rack (3" channel" - very BOTTOM "shelves" will be 5" channel open side up, 24" long, that double as feet for the rack, then upper shelves each piece of 3" channel (edge-welded) gets 2" shorter, 5 levels total - maybe later tonite I'll get a chance to make a jpg outa the CAD file I'm workin' on for a better idea... Steve

OP05, just noticed I didn't include that link to JeepnFord's thread - no wonder you were confused, sorry 'bout that - here 'tiz...
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/386590-welding-table-build-6.html

 

[Big Barn]

I needed an easy way to level my 4'x8' welding table every I moved it around (which is like, OFTEN).

Then... behold the current Princess Auto flyer. (Cnd Harbor Freight wannabe)



Their website showed what APPEARED to be a threaded adjustable foot but as it turns out it ISNT.

A brief online search only yielded $75USD ($100+ CDN items. THAT certainly wasn't gonna happen.

Sooo...I picked up the $12 ones and MADE them adjustable. Pics should tell the story. They're not as pretty as I'd like, so I will just call them "working prototypes".



OEM on the left. Big Barnified floor lock on the right.



Tentative mount for welding table leg. (One of four)

These floor locks have a 1" throw/lift and (now) 1" of vertical adjustment for levelling.

Maybe this will help someone else for their project(s).



Terry






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[ovrszd]

Oh, those are sweet.. Would be a definite upgrade from my "bolt with a plate welded to the head" floor locks!!!!

Nice work Terry. You need to produce and sell those. With your bracket it would be easy to add them to almost any table!!!! Especially mine!!!! What's one of them ole kids in the last picture cost anyway?????

 

[Big Barn]

Richard-- I'll still do the bolt/plate adjusters for stationary benches. Just too easy to make.
I usually face a 3/4" bolt head in the lathe then plug weld to a heavy galvanized washer.



Here's where I plan to mount the adjustable floor locks on the weld table. I used 3/8" plate for the mount and gusset.

 

[Oldpath05]

BTW, I DID get a LITTLE done on the "Crane-Tainer" (nice ring to it, huh?? :laughing: )
OP05, just noticed I didn't include that link to JeepnFord's thread - no wonder you were confused, sorry 'bout that - here 'tiz...
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/welding/386590-welding-table-build-6.html

All caught on the MAGnificent drill over on the jeep trail, but those holes couldn't they been done by a standard drill press, I picture a mag drill for overhead or on the wall drilling.

But now I'm a little behind the nine ball again with "Crane-Tainer"<<<"A crane is a type of machine, generally equipped with a hoist rope, wire ropes or chains, and sheaves, that can be used both to lift........... Tainer<<<<Someone who lies on the beach to get a good sun tainer...........either way you should have more done by now on in at the Crane-Tainer, after your done filling out the Hurt Feelings Report.

 

[Oldpath05]

Richard-- I'll still do the bolt/plate adjusters for stationary benches. Just too easy to make.
I usually face a 3/4" bolt head in the lathe then plug weld to a heavy galvanized washer.

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Here's where I plan to mount the adjustable floor locks on the weld table. I used 3/8" plate for the mount and gusset.

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I still cant picture how those floor locks work, what exactly turns to adjust the height, the bars, the butterfly effect or the round wheel on the floor? It is better to have a level table to square work, nothing worse than being a half bubble oof.

 

[Big Barn]

Oldpath:
Turning the round floor pad (welded to 3/4" bolt) accommodates levelling.

Using your foot to press down on the flat lever RAISES your table (or whatever) ONE INCH, effectively RAISING your existing caster wheels off the ground eliminating rolling.

To lower back onto the casters PUSH either of the winged round stock levers ahead with your foot.

Of course I'm assuming that's how they work. The store only had two four inch units in stock and had to give me a rain check.

 

[BukitCase]

Oldpath - "but those holes couldn't they been done by a standard drill press, I picture a mag drill for overhead or on the wall drilling. "

Yeah, that's what mag drills were intended for and I've used them for exactly that - and yeah, I could've done the 26 holes in each leg adjuster with a drill press - but ANNULAR cutters, with a rigid enough press, are several TIMES as fast AND do a cleaner job - this is because they don't need to remove ALL the metal from a hole, only the CIRCUMFERENCE.

Each of those bottom leg adjusters took me maybe 10 minutes TOTAL to do 26 1/2" holes, with nothing more than a single scribe mark to start. After that, each hole took about 5 seconds to index and about 12 seconds to drill, without even a pilot hole. I finished ALL THREE legs (total of 81 holes counting one I welded a nut over on each leg) in LESS THAN 30 MINUTES.

"Crane-Tainer" in this case, is a coined word I made up to denote a Container with its own CRANE built in - and I haven't given up on that, there's just a few more details to figure out than I originally thought, including a "porch roof" I'll need to fab up BEFORE I get started -

That end of the container gets prevailing winds, and we're now into our "horizontal rain" phase here so I've been gathering materials for a 10'x10' roof that will plug into the corner sockets on the container and allow both doors to be open and still DRY inside - it'll also allow me to back my Subaru Outback up to the doors and load/unload stuff without the use of SCUBA gear.

So don't give up on the "Crane-Tainer" thread, there's a LOT more to come before it's over... Steve

 

[BukitCase]

Got a little closer to being able to actually DO something the last couple days - my weld table (30"x84"x1" top) was NOT EVEN VISIBLE when I started - somethin' about flat places attracting crap - once I got MOST of the stuff off, it ALL looked like the part under that clear tote on the right -

A 9" Hitachi grinder with a 7" 36 grit flap disk and two arms that didn't work much afterward, and most of it is now clean - I put 3 mag-base 100 watt bulbs under it to slow down flash rust, and promised meself I wouldn't let it get this bad EVER AGAIN (or until I forget what a PITA it was to clean )

The first pic shows a new 2'x4' storage shelf I put together today, blocked it up level and screwed to the wall - the honey oak stained object to its left was SUPPOSED to be a WORK bench; now, maybe it CAN...

The other pics are more relevant to the Container Weld shop thread so they'll go there... Steve

 

[BukitCase]

Got things a little more organized today, should be about ready to get back on the "quickie" cart for the new MM211 - then (hopefully) back on the "porch roof" for the weld shop container, then on to the bridge crane -

Been meaning to consolidate all my "tinker toys" I build for doing various rigging, etc, with the backhoe FEL - any time I can't see a way to accomplish a particular task with what I already have, I add another "toy" to the set - it's reached the point now that I seldom need to build another adapter to rig something for a job -

There's a couple "store-bought" pieces in there, but nearly all are built by me. Some are male-male, some male-female, some female-female, some tees, 45* in several different directions, whatever seemed like a good idea at the time

One of the "toys" isn't there, but is in one of the earlier pics - the receiver mount vise seen on top of the weld table... Steve

 

[dragoneggs]

Love that first pic, Steve. My job time has seriously interfered with my shop time. Walked out this evening and couldn't find a pic and story that was worthy of posting. Can't wait to xmas time and I can get back at it.

 

[BukitCase]

Thanks Dragon - until I put that shelf up, half the time I coudn't find the particular "toy" I needed - now, all I gotta do is remember to put stuff BACK Earlier today I found a couple of the "TT's" in one 40' container, 4-5 more in the 20' container, 3-4 more in the wood shop, another 3 on my 18' flatbed under a tarp along with several implements, and a bunch on the smaller steel "mag drill" bench (still not cleaned off, BTW)

I keep thinking I should build a "rigging stand" that could be moved by hand truck/pallet jack/forks, etc, but when I see all this stuff together I doubt anything but the old Case could MOVE it ...Steve

 

[Big Barn]

Got things a little more organized today, should be about ready to get back on the "quickie" cart for the new MM211 - then (hopefully) back on the "porch roof" for the weld shop container, then on to the bridge crane -

Been meaning to consolidate all my "tinker toys" I build for doing various rigging, etc, with the backhoe FEL - any time I can't see a way to accomplish a particular task with what I already have, I add another "toy" to the set - it's reached the point now that I seldom need to build another adapter to rig something for a job -

There's a couple "store-bought" pieces in there, but nearly all are built by me. Some are male-male, some male-female, some female-female, some tees, 45* in several different directions, whatever seemed like a good idea at the time

One of the "toys" isn't there, but is in one of the earlier pics - the receiver mount vise seen on top of the weld table... Steve

Shiny. AND organized !!

 

[Oldpath05]

Got things a little more organized today, should be about ready to get back on the "quickie" cart for the new MM211 - then (hopefully) back on the "porch roof" for the weld shop container, then on to the bridge crane - Steve

If there's one word that always catches my ear, it's crane, now what we putting a crane on a bridge, what bridge........... This past winter I spent 6 weekends making a wooden jib crane to move 100 lb bundles of slab wood, from point A to point B. Since it works fairly good I want to make one for the inside, but out of a steel I beam, dont think wood will lift 500 lbs, although if I had a bridge in my shop that might work better..............