Tire ballast 911

[pickeringchris]

real wide rims?

soundguy

I don't know. They are the r4 tires that came with the machine. Tire size is 15-19.5. Is that wide?

 

[k0ua]

I don't know. They are the r4 tires that came with the machine. Tire size is 15-19.5. Is that wide?

Not really that is the exact same tire size on my Kubota L3400HST.. I have run out of ideas why they debead so quick.. I had no trouble. I left a little air in and started pumping with a piece of junk drill pump.. I feel really bad about leading you down frustration road.

James K0UA

 

[pickeringchris]

James. It's all your fault. Hahaha. Don't worry about it. I would be lost without all of you guys. In the new year I will get tubes.

 

[Soundguy]

not particularly wide rim and small tire. sometimes a narrow tire and wide rim will have a hard time holding a bead.

your rim is probably REAL smooth, and the tire bead is too.. that and the angle of the seat al together is giving you the fit..

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

ps.. don't sweat the tires. after you mess with these machines enough it will be 2nd nature.

I do all my own tire work so far. keep saying I'm gonna stop.. just havn't gotten around to stopping yet.

who knows.. maybee when one of the tires on the 70 or 95 hp machine goes.. I might stop then..

 

[Coyote machine]

Yo pumpkin dude.... have you considered hiring someone who has actually successfully loaded tractor tires before?
Just saying it might turn this frustration into a job completed.
Then next time when your injection pump timing needs adjusting you could break out the spanners and a suitable drift and go nutz?!:thumbsup::confused2:

 

[pickeringchris]

Yo pumpkin dude.... have you considered hiring someone who has actually successfully loaded tractor tires before?
Just saying it might turn this frustration into a job completed.
Then next time when your injection pump timing needs adjusting you could break out the spanners and a suitable drift and go nutz?!:thumbsup::confused2:

I never considered hiring someone to do a job that even a caveman could do. Or so I thought.
Injection pump...... Wouldn't give it a second thought. I'd hire a professional in a heartbeat.

 

[Gittyup]

did you try goint at it REAL slow. Say start at 35 PSI. Let out 3 lbs. Add a little fluid. Repressurize to 35. Let out. Add. etc.

I've never really done it, but sure seems like this would work. If the tire looses bead after just a few pounds, you are sure to break a bead some day when pressure drops from nature causes. I'd sure then be looking to do tubes.

 

[pickeringchris]

That would be impossible to do with the equipment I have.
When you unscrew the valve stem to put the adapter on you loose 90% of the air. Then the rest of the air fights against the pressure of my pump and actually comes out the pump until he pump pressure is greater. Then fluid pours into the tire but at that point there is only a couple pounds of air left in the tire.

 

[Coyote machine]

Where are you located? Can you get your dealer to come out and pick up your tires or have them fill them with their machine at your place?
There's got to be a simple, read caveman, type solution to this problem.
You might be able to get a truck tire place to do it if dealer is too far....

 

[IndyIan]

Here's my idea:
Get a foot pump.

Put it in a suitable bucket.
Fill the bucket with washer fluid and pump it into your tire. This way you can maintain some air pressure and still get fluid in. Every once in a while you'll have to spin the tire to put the valve up to let out some pressure.

After you are done one tire you'll curse me and then call a tire service to do the other!:laughing:

Also do you have a pair of 10k ratchet straps? I've got to think 2 on one tire must be able to squeeze the sides out.

I had my tires done at the dealer and I think it was almost $400 for rimguard so you can spend a bit of time messing around and still have it worth your efforts.

 

[Soundguy]

though a PITA to patch a leak.. i'm liking my tubes more and more every day..

 

[pickeringchris]

Really smart idea Ian. . I think I have pretty much decided not to invest another penny into doing this myself. I am just going to have tubes put in.

 

[pickeringchris]

Hey Soundguy how frequent do you get flats? I am estimating my machine will only see 50 hours a year and on a very small property. I'd be surprised if I got a flat.

 

[wallace]

Your first mistake was to lift the tire off the ground.
Get your tire to take air again and drive the machine around for a while.
Then when you place the jack under the machine. Pump the jack up just till it barley touches. Let the air out making sure the tire never comes off the ground.
Try it this way.

 

[MotorSeven]

Hey Soundguy how frequent do you get flats? I am estimating my machine will only see 50 hours a year and on a very small property. I'd be surprised if I got a flat.

On my tubless tires I have never had a complete flat. I "loaned" my tractor to a neighbor who(unknown to me) used it like a bull dozer to push down a old shed full of stuff...used oil, buckets of screws & nails, rebar....etc.....{sigh}
When I got it back it was covered in oil(I thought he busted a filter or hydro line) and had 2 nails in the front tire & a screw in the rear. A gallon of Simple green later and 4 tire plugs(one hole took two) I was back in business. Tubes would have been a nighmare...er a second nighmare as I still have bad dreams about my Kiotidozer day.

....and no he ain't "borrowing" it again:smiley_aafz:

 

[seacap04]

I am going to load my rear tires on my DK45. Ideally I will take it to a dealer 40 miles away and pay $500 and fill with rim guard. However I am having difficulty finding a trailer. Next option is to remove rear wheels, put them in my truck and take them to dealer. Yes they will weight 4-500# each, but I do have an overhead crane in my shop. Still it will be hard work. I have thought of filling myself, but post like this have convinced me not to.

I feel your pain pickeringchris. But thank you for posting so the info is out there.

 

[k0ua]

I am going to load my rear tires on my DK45. Ideally I will take it to a dealer 40 miles away and pay $500 and fill with rim guard. However I am having difficulty finding a trailer. Next option is to remove rear wheels, put them in my truck and take them to dealer. Yes they will weight 4-500# each, but I do have an overhead crane in my shop. Still it will be hard work. I have thought of filling myself, but post like this have convinced me not to.

I feel your pain pickeringchris. But thank you for posting so the info is out there.

What is so weird is so many of the guys have done this without trouble, including me, and I have the exact same size and type of tire as Chris does. I cannot explain the difference. His tires de-beaded as soon as he let most of the air out, and mine did not.

James K0UA

 

[pickeringchris]

Ya. It's just one of those things. I think some people reading this thread will assume I am useless with tools. Lol. Truth is I am a very handy guy. There is not many things I cannot do. Still, I have tried for hours but these tires just don't lock positively on the rim. They need pressure to keep them in place. It's a no brainer. I'm gonna get tubes. This will give me peace of mind.

 

[sailfast]

The problem here is in lifting the wheel entirely the ground.
The weight of the liquid is breaking the bead, keep the tire touching the ground, problem solved.