Tipping over question

[Griffey]

I read the post and the ones that followed about the tractor tipping over. I live in a very hilly area and I have found that my B7610 is tippy. I have had ther rear tires come off the ground on a couple occasions. I have a couple questions.
1. How much will it help to move the tires to the furthest outside position?

2. Would it help to get the tires weighted? Cost?

3. Does the hard side cab that I have make it more top heavy?

Any other thoughts would be great.

 

[Griffey]

I read the post and the ones that followed about the tractor tipping over. I live in a very hilly area and I have found that my B7610 is tippy. I have had ther rear tires come off the ground on a couple occasions. I have a couple questions.
1. How much will it help to move the tires to the furthest outside position?

2. Would it help to get the tires weighted? Cost?

3. Does the hard side cab that I have make it more top heavy?

Any other thoughts would be great.

 

[KennyV]

1. Any increase in width will help a lot… down side is you may be wider than your attachments.
2. Increasing the weight as low as you can also helps a lot… down side heavy is not that goods for finish mowing. If that is not a problem use liquid in the tires, you are in cold country so you need something that won’t freeze look into beet juice or windshield washer fluid/ alcohol.
3. Almost all tractors can be top heavy… use care when conditions are not perfect. KennyV.

 

[KennyV]

1. Any increase in width will help a lot… down side is you may be wider than your attachments.
2. Increasing the weight as low as you can also helps a lot… down side heavy is not that goods for finish mowing. If that is not a problem use liquid in the tires, you are in cold country so you need something that won’t freeze look into beet juice or windshield washer fluid/ alcohol.
3. Almost all tractors can be top heavy… use care when conditions are not perfect. KennyV.

 

[beenthere]

A weighted ballast box on the 3pt will go a long ways to keeping the rear tires on the ground. Would have to assume you don't have one, and picked up too much in the bucket.

When on a slope, and the bucket is off the ground, and no ballast (fluid in tires and wheel weights will help) then tipping will happen easily. Please be safe.

 

[beenthere]

A weighted ballast box on the 3pt will go a long ways to keeping the rear tires on the ground. Would have to assume you don't have one, and picked up too much in the bucket.

When on a slope, and the bucket is off the ground, and no ballast (fluid in tires and wheel weights will help) then tipping will happen easily. Please be safe.

 

[Bob53]

Yes on a hill bucket off the ground and loaded increaseing you're chances, work a slower will help.
Where sit belt, i tipped over on flat ground, I did not know the ground was real soft on one side of tractor, left tires sunk in all in split second. Bucket was up 1/2 way and loaded.

 

[Bob53]

Yes on a hill bucket off the ground and loaded increaseing you're chances, work a slower will help.
Where sit belt, i tipped over on flat ground, I did not know the ground was real soft on one side of tractor, left tires sunk in all in split second. Bucket was up 1/2 way and loaded.

 

[chrisjbell]

I like filled tires - adds weight and doesn't use up 3pt space (although if you do a lot of FEL work you definately need something heavy hanging off the back).

I had my fronts foam filled, which is great because it adds weight and will eliminate flats. It was pretty expensive, though. Don't remember exactly how much for the filling because I had it done at the same time I bought new tires.

 

[chrisjbell]

I like filled tires - adds weight and doesn't use up 3pt space (although if you do a lot of FEL work you definately need something heavy hanging off the back).

I had my fronts foam filled, which is great because it adds weight and will eliminate flats. It was pretty expensive, though. Don't remember exactly how much for the filling because I had it done at the same time I bought new tires.

 

[jinalee]

What type of tires do you have? If I get R4 tires, should I still have them filled? Thanks

 

[jinalee]

What type of tires do you have? If I get R4 tires, should I still have them filled? Thanks

 

[b2100diesel]

I also live in a hilly area. I had my rear tires filled and that helped alot. I slide the rear tires out and drive with the bucket as low as I can.

 

[b2100diesel]

I also live in a hilly area. I had my rear tires filled and that helped alot. I slide the rear tires out and drive with the bucket as low as I can.

 

[texasjohn]

Check out this site .... it shows movies of tractor tipping over and gives hints about how to avoid.

My suggestions:
ALWAYS carry your loaded FEL close to ground
DON'T go sideways across a hill bump
DO get a tilt meter... it'll teach you what 15%,20% feels like.
DO fill rear tires with liquid.
DO find a way to add more weight to 3PH... there are many, many ideas in TBN about how to do this.
DO go slow on hilly terrain.
DO wear seat belt when it might get dicy.... I admit I only wear mine when it could get scary.
Search TBN posts for ideas about how to drive and weight your tractor for most safe operation.
Be aware that it IS possible to tip on reasonably flat ground... all depends on if tire hits bump/hole, weight distribution, speed, weight height, etc.

In time, you will learn what you can and can't do... so be careful!

 

[texasjohn]

Check out this site .... it shows movies of tractor tipping over and gives hints about how to avoid.

My suggestions:
ALWAYS carry your loaded FEL close to ground
DON'T go sideways across a hill bump
DO get a tilt meter... it'll teach you what 15%,20% feels like.
DO fill rear tires with liquid.
DO find a way to add more weight to 3PH... there are many, many ideas in TBN about how to do this.
DO go slow on hilly terrain.
DO wear seat belt when it might get dicy.... I admit I only wear mine when it could get scary.
Search TBN posts for ideas about how to drive and weight your tractor for most safe operation.
Be aware that it IS possible to tip on reasonably flat ground... all depends on if tire hits bump/hole, weight distribution, speed, weight height, etc.

In time, you will learn what you can and can't do... so be careful!

 

[RonR]

Texas,

You left off an important one:

When moving with the FEL loaded, ALWAYS keep your right hand on the joystick. At the first hint of any trouble with ANYTHING, drop the bucket.

ron

 

[RonR]

Texas,

You left off an important one:

When moving with the FEL loaded, ALWAYS keep your right hand on the joystick. At the first hint of any trouble with ANYTHING, drop the bucket.

ron

 

[WayneW]

Noticed by reading your profile, that you havea B7610. So do I, and I also live on VERY hilly terrrain. And yes, sometimes it does get tippy, esp. with something is the bucket. And really so when I dig out a large rock and it isn't centered on the bucket. (I try to get the heavy object on the unhill side of the bucket if I can if I have to traverse the hill)

The 5' BB helps a lot when I know I'll be doing heavy work.

RonR is correct. Always keep your right hand on that loader lever. (Keep the bucket as low as possible with heavy loads anyway) You can really feel when one of the rear tires is coming off the ground. A quick drop of the bucket (TO THE GROUND, not just down -- that will make the problem worst) will ground you.

Also, I beleive, going back to my 4X4 truck with lift kits and tires and the law ---- That some tractors are just more tippy than others, due to their width and wheelbase. The 7510/7610 is a pretty narrow, short and stubby tractor. It's width (as per Kubota specs) is 46.3", compared to the B7800's 53.8". (that's 7.5" wider) And it's wheelbase of 59.1" is 6.5" shorter than the 7800's. (65.6") Just like a Jeep Wrangler is more tippy than an extracab Toyota Tacoma. It's wider with a longer wheelbase. And why (according to the law here is Mass.) I can legally lift my Tacoma higher than a Wrangler. It's 5" wider and almost 35" longer. They use a formula Maximum Lift = (Wheelbase x Track)/2200 .

When you add the fact that the tractor does not have the suspension of a truck, and you are carrying a great deal of weight (relative to the tractor) way out front (and possibly high in the air), it's no wonder why they are tippy. As TexasJohn said earlier, after a while you get a feeling of what you can do and what you can't.

-cheers

 

[WayneW]

Noticed by reading your profile, that you havea B7610. So do I, and I also live on VERY hilly terrrain. And yes, sometimes it does get tippy, esp. with something is the bucket. And really so when I dig out a large rock and it isn't centered on the bucket. (I try to get the heavy object on the unhill side of the bucket if I can if I have to traverse the hill)

The 5' BB helps a lot when I know I'll be doing heavy work.

RonR is correct. Always keep your right hand on that loader lever. (Keep the bucket as low as possible with heavy loads anyway) You can really feel when one of the rear tires is coming off the ground. A quick drop of the bucket (TO THE GROUND, not just down -- that will make the problem worst) will ground you.

Also, I beleive, going back to my 4X4 truck with lift kits and tires and the law ---- That some tractors are just more tippy than others, due to their width and wheelbase. The 7510/7610 is a pretty narrow, short and stubby tractor. It's width (as per Kubota specs) is 46.3", compared to the B7800's 53.8". (that's 7.5" wider) And it's wheelbase of 59.1" is 6.5" shorter than the 7800's. (65.6") Just like a Jeep Wrangler is more tippy than an extracab Toyota Tacoma. It's wider with a longer wheelbase. And why (according to the law here is Mass.) I can legally lift my Tacoma higher than a Wrangler. It's 5" wider and almost 35" longer. They use a formula Maximum Lift = (Wheelbase x Track)/2200 .

When you add the fact that the tractor does not have the suspension of a truck, and you are carrying a great deal of weight (relative to the tractor) way out front (and possibly high in the air), it's no wonder why they are tippy. As TexasJohn said earlier, after a while you get a feeling of what you can do and what you can't.

-cheers