Time to upgrade

   / Time to upgrade #11  
sorry but the first baler was built in 1939 by a man named inness and most of the parts came off a JD grain binder. but yes the vermeer is a good baler

I didn't word my previous post exactly right. Vermeer made the first ever large round baler in 1971. The video of it is interesting to watch.
 
   / Time to upgrade #12  
No I've never ran a Vermeer becuase they do not exist in this part of Texas. John Deere is all you'll see. I own a John Deere 535 which I've ran for 5 years and have had 0 problems. I've ran a 567 and 468 and they are really hard to beat in my opoinon. I have no grudge against Vermeer becuase I've never ran or seen on but after using jd for along time, I find it hard to switch to anything besides it.

I understand what you mean about switching equipment. Old habits are hard to break when you are getting good service out of what you are using. It's like everything else, there is good and bad in all makes and models. Anything can break down no matter what the brand name. My Vermeer is 14 years old now and other than the buzzer in the moniter acting up part of the time I have no complaint with it.
 
   / Time to upgrade #13  
You must be a deere fan. Look at the specs on the JD, NH and then Vermeer. The Vermeer beats them both on the rated bale weight. When it comes to round balers, Vermeer was the first on the market and are still setting the standards.

Vermeer are a bit off an odd ball here and don't have a very good name ! JD's are getting less too , Almost all NH/case IH now .
 
   / Time to upgrade #14  
Vermeer are a bit off an odd ball here and don't have a very good name ! JD's are getting less too , Almost all NH/case IH now .

If I couldn't pick John Deere it would have to be new holland for my second chocie
 
   / Time to upgrade #15  
I have the only Vermeer baler around my area that I've seen at least. Most people around here have either NH or Gehl balers. I had a NH and have used a Gehl. Both did a good job but the Vermeer is by far the best I have been around. As bad as I hate to admit it I even had a M&W (sore subject) and it was only good for the parts man at the dealership. You only had 2 ways to go with it. Break down in the morning while the dealer was open or break down in the afternoon and hope you got a day of baling in. The only thing you could count on is that it was going to break at some point.

My problem with JD is my local dealership. I only have one that is close to me and if I never set foot in there again it wouldn't make me loose any sleep to say the least. If I didn't know any better I think their motto is the high the price the worse the service. I just can't see paying over $10,000 more for a JD baler than what I can get a Vermeer for.
 
   / Time to upgrade #16  
Any sign of Welger/Lely around you ?? hmm... Lely is tied up with Vermeer, maybe we're already talking about the same baler.. Over here its 60% Welger balers at contractors. Some Deutz, some NH, some Krone, some Deere and some cheap italians at private farms.
 
   / Time to upgrade #17  
When I go to the big Ag Expo I see some of their products but that I know of there aren't any around here. There is a krone dealer not to far from me but the problem with their balers is that they look just like a M&W and I'm not ever going down that road again.
 
   / Time to upgrade #18  
My 2 cents' worth:

I just bought a very nice used round baler. It's a JD 457. Had I not found a good used one, my intention was to buy a new Vermeer 504M. The only other used baler that I would consider is the NH. This is just based on my personal experience.

YMMV
 
   / Time to upgrade #19  
We have a vermeer 504M and haven't had the best of luck . 5000 bales and have replaced 7 rollers in an upgrade kit from vermeer.. Unfortunately still not very satisfied.. The bale kicker is terrible if there is any slope at all.. Chains are low quality and wear out quickly.. Had problems with the pickup... not happy
 
   / Time to upgrade #20  
Brad123, just out of curiousity does your baler have the auto oiler for the chains? Knock on wood, I haven't had any chain trouble out of my baler but it does have the oiler on it and despences a little shot of oil to the chains every time a bale is dumped.
 

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