Three point scoop

[Markyyg]

Good morning, I’m tossing around the idea of making a rear scoop! I’m going to be pouring a concrete curb that will make a barrier between my grass and my gravel driveway 4 or 5 inches wide and 4 inches deep,all straight lines and I’m thinking I might be able to fab something up. Any ideas from the gallery? Thank you in advance

 

[scootr]

How long of curb are you planning? One suggestion is to pit a 3/8ths or 1/2" rebar in the center of it so it won't separate when it breaks. And it will break as the ground moves. years ago I laid a little block wall and cap to separate the grass and gravel drive...it's just 1 to 2 course high and it has worked very well.
As for pouring curb you will need to move a lot and if you are bag mixing...you may just want to tow the mixer along and pour directly into the forms.

 

[bdhsfz6]

What do you want to use the scoop for? Digging a trench, transporting material, etc?
Any reason why you can't use the tractor FEL bucket as a scoop? If you want something on the rear of the tractor, you can use one of these 3pt to SSQA adapters. That way you can attach your FEL bucket to your 3pt hitch and use it as a scoop.

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[scootr]

What do you want to use the scoop for? Digging a trench, transporting material, etc?
Any reason why you can't use the tractor FEL bucket as a scoop? If you want something on the rear of the tractor, you can use one of these 3pt to SSQA adapters. That way you can attach your FEL bucket to your 3pt hitch and use it as a scoop.

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Nifty gadget...though I'm not sure why I would want my bucket on the rear of the tractor...

 

[rScotty]

Nifty gadget...though I'm not sure why I would want my bucket on the rear of the tractor...

A farmer down the road had one on his old Massey 135 - a beautiful heavy 35 hp tractor but it didn't have a FEL or power steering.

He used a 3pt mounted rear scoop for moving dirt or carrying anything heavy. It would scoop dirt moving forward or in reverse, then lift and dump.

Implement companies still make rear scoops....called dirt scoops or sometimes pond scoops. Used to be used for cleaning ditches.
Before FEL and power steering became common those old 3pt scoops were found on most farms.

 

[careyo63]

Used this on the Yanmar. Great for Gravel Rd's. Esp being Reversable. Move the Lower Pins to the other forward location. I had two sets mounted the Yrs. I used it. Piece of cake to change that way!

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[bdhsfz6]

Nifty gadget...though I'm not sure why I would want my bucket on the rear of the tractor...

I have an extra FEL bucket that I use as a scoop on the 3pt when moving a lot of material around. That way, I can carry a bucket load front and rear. Works particularly well with a hyd. top link.

The adapter also works well for attaching other SSQA implements to the 3pt like a bale spear or even a FEL plow.

If you have a hyd. tilt cylinder, you can also adjust the angle of the bucket when grading. That's something you can't easily do with a FEL bucket.

 

[chim]

I've used single shank subsoiler to loosen dirt for manual removal with a shovel. Getting a nice straight and narrow line was tough. It was straight enough to bury 4" PVC but I guess it would be too sloppy for your application.

Something with a cross section you describe doesn't sound like it would hold up very long here where we get freezing and thawing. Have you calculated the concrete? An 80# bag of concrete has about 0.6CF and with a 4" wide x 4" tall curb would do less than 6" of length.

 

[404nouser]

How about finding a single plow and roll the dirt out of a line.

 

[CalG]

A farmer down the road had one on his old Massey 135 - a beautiful heavy 35 hp tractor but it didn't have a FEL or power steering.

He used a 3pt mounted rear scoop for moving dirt or carrying anything heavy. It would scoop dirt moving forward or in reverse, then lift and dump.

Implement companies still make rear scoops....called dirt scoops or sometimes pond scoops. Used to be used for cleaning ditches.
Before FEL and power steering became common those old 3pt scoops were found on most farms.
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I have had one of those for over thirty years. It's dredged the vernal pool out back bringing the rich soil to the gardens out front. Moved TONs of stone, sand and gravel. It's a decent firewood mover too.
If I didn't have one, I would go out and buy one!

A quick welded on "dam" fitted to the open end would serve to haul concrete.

That stuff is heavy!

 

[RayIN]

Used this on the Yanmar. Great for Gravel Rd's. Esp being Reversable. Move the Lower Pins to the other forward location. I had two sets mounted the Yrs. I used it. Piece of cake to change that way!

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Yep, I have an old Ford rear scoop Back in the 60's I used it to clean out a crooked creek running through a field, built a driveway, etc.
One nice thing about a rear scoop is weight; with a FEL the rear axle gets lighter, with a rear scoop the rear axle gets heavier
I'm gonna sell mine to a local used equipment dealer, along with a 3-pt hitch boom.

 

[Markyyg]

sorry for ghosting everyone but I dropped my iPad on the way out of the doctor's office and broke the screen, I’m looking at about 300’ of curb, and was wanting to use the scoop to dig the trench. you guys have lots of good ideas I was thinking three point so I could try to drive and dig in a straight line. thank you for the good ideas

 

[bdhsfz6]

A few years ago, I put in 250' of concrete curb between a driveway and lawn. It was mainly to divert water, which would run cross the drive and freeze.

To minimize disruption and save a few bucks, I decided to mix and pour it myself in sections instead of doing it all at once. I made a reusable 8' long form from 2x10's and dug a section at a time with my FEL bucket. I could have trenched with the backhoe but a couple of scoops with the FEL bucket perpendicular to the curb line made a cleaner excavation.

I found it easier to align the form with the previous section to make a straight line, rather than dig a straight 250' trench. I put two 10' lengths of 1/2" rebar in the form with 2' exposed on one end to join with the previous section. That also provided an expansion joint.

I used bagged Portland cement and my supply of sand & gravel that I always have on hand. I used a stand mixer and delivered the concrete in the FEL bucket, which made it easy to pour into the form. It took all summer to place 32 sections, but I did it at my leisure and the landscape disruption was limited to a small area at any point in time.

It was a retirement project that I kind of enjoyed. I worked when I felt like it, in good weather, and at my own pace. I realize not everyone has this luxury though, so YMMV.

 

[dougtrr2]

I had a bucket scoop for my little John Deere 318. I moved a lot of dirt with it. When my dad came to visit we spent an afternoon filling low spots in my yard with some nice topsoil I had delivered. It was just the right amount of dirt to be able to rake out. My dad would get a load of dirt, I would point to a spot, I would trip the scoop and dump the dirt. While he went to get another load I would rake it out and find the next spot. Good memories.

Doug in SW IA

 

[jmc]

I'd be concerned about that curb surviving the first delivery truck backing into your driveway.

 

[EscapedSuburbia]

I didn't know these things existed. I'll be putting in a sidewalk this Spring and I wonder if something like this could be used to dig out for the base. They appear to be about the cost of 2 days rental of a mini-excavator but I'd still own it afterwards.

 

[bigtiller]

What do you think about making a 2' wide sidewalk rather than a curb?

 

[DennisfromCincy]

I have a reversable dump scoop you can borrow if you were closer. Is just Like RayIN's.