Thoughts on this guy’s experiences

[Carl_NH]

Carl_NH,

I think I'm offended. You didn't mention the M59 TLB, pre cursor to the M62 TLB.

Indeed, you should be, my apologies for the error.. The M59 is a very capable and fine machine - does that make up for the omission?

 

[85txaggie]

Thanks M59. I had not thought about prior damage to the subsequent failures.

 

[LD1]

I agree that it is most likely abuse to the machine.

The guy is clearly digging out alot of stumps.

These small mounted backhoes are fine for what they are intended. Small trenches, Small holes, small stumps, occasional use. They are all slow and I have yet to sit on one that is ergonomically friendly.

If your uses are infrequent and light, they are a handy tool to have. If you need to clear acres of tree stumps, its the wrong tool for the job

 

[Raul-02]

What are your thoughts on his experiences?

I think that Compact tractor backhoes don't hold a candle to a real backhoe, but some owners try to get the same kind of work out of them, and they find out how unlike the real thing they are.

You seem very much interested in this function. there are GREAT auctions of heavy machinery where you can pick up a real excavator for Ten Gees or less.

 

[M59]

Indeed, you should be, my apologies for the error.. The M59 is a very capable and fine machine - does that make up for the omission?

Absolutely.

And, for those who like to add to their M59 and also L47 ( since they both use same pin setup on Hoe knuckle ), here are some pics of Quick Coupler adapter for using the KX series of hoe buckets.

Fun with rocks. Dig them out of the ground, make piles, then use them for future projects. These became part of road building to prevent erosion washout. Beats paying good money to buy rocks.

 

[Skipper T]

I have the MT 125 with about 125 hrs and have the backhoe and love it. Have not had any failures or issues. Love the little tractor. I do not try to do more than I think it can handle and so far, all is well. I took a lot crap for getting the backhoe but have since used it help out all the nay Sayers!!

 

[RobertEH]

No experience with BH's, however I did pick up an LS MT235HE last April. 60 hours on it with no issues so far (clearly just getting out of the starting gates though).

My comment would be to look at the MT235 as long as you are looking at the MT225 already. 10 more HP on the same frame for a nominal price increase. I was looking at the MT225 and then decided on the MT235 to get the larger engine. I think that pushed me into emissions restrictions/regen obligations though so that is a consideration. I have had to do one regen at about 20ish hours. Since then I have kept a higher RPM and I think that is burning off the soot better.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

85txaggie,

The 1st "failure" (

) is likely the root cause of the remaining 3 failures ( #2 ripped end of hydraulic ram, #3 broke lower boom pivot, #4 broke backhoe undercarriage frame ). To get that kind of bending force on the dipper, the operator probably hooked the bucket under the stump and then tried to drive the machine, in low gear, away from the stump and probably at a pretty severe angle. I have seen inexperienced operators hook a backhoe up the stump and then take running start to yank it out of the ground instead of digging it out. All of the various joints from the backhoe carriage frame mounts all the way out to bucket took a severe amount of abuse and the dipper to boom pivot was the first to give up the struggle. I suspect all the other subsequent failures were initiated at that time and failed as the machine continued to be worked. Most hydraulically operated machines have relief valves which prevent the king of forces neccessary to produce failures 2, 3, 4 and would have prevented #1 if the operator had been swinging the boom under hydraulic power to cause the failure. I am certain every contributor here has heard the high pitched squeel when the hydraulic overpressure valve kicks in because the load is higher than what the operator is asking the equipment to do.

While the LS equipment is not commercial grade it is most likely a capable machine so long as it is NOT abused. I have no direct experience with LS so I can not comment on machine quality or engineering.

Hope this helps.

I watched 2 of this guys videos. First video there was no visible witness marks that would indicate he greased the back hoe. Second video he had a chain attached that scarred up the metal and removed the paint. Where the chain was attached, it was not the intended use for the equipment.

When it comes to common sense and learning, well. Some things you can fix, some things you can't.

Some people don't learn on there own.

 

[GeneV]

I have the MT 125 with about 125 hrs and have the backhoe and love it. Have not had any failures or issues. Love the little tractor. I do not try to do more than I think it can handle and so far, all is well. I took a lot crap for getting the backhoe but have since used it help out all the nay Sayers!!

Same here with my massey in regards to the backhoe. I was actually just looking for a scut tractor with loader, and then this one popped up 60 hr gently used with the hoe, at a better price than a new one with loader only, so I was like well alrighty then. Since then, I've used the backhoe quite a bit, for all sorts of things. No regrets having a backhoe!

 

[85txaggie]

Thanks everyone for your responses. I ended up purchasing a 2018 Kubota BX23S with several implements from the original owner locally. I will see how I do with the sub compact for now.