This is why I'n an electrician and not a plumber.

[heehaw]

to those that say hot water freezes faster than cold water: have you actually tried this? an i mean YOU actually tried this..if so, i am doing something wrong..i lost a bet wayyy back in 1973 over this same subject, an we could not get hot water to ever freeze faster than cold water: but that said, water that goes thru the water heater, sure seems to have less chlorene in it, along with the other mentioned stuff that settles out.
heehaw

 

[clemsonfor]

Our 'fridge has an ice maker on it. It also has the standard connection and shut off valve behind the fridge. I put an additional shut off valve in the basement where I can get to it in a hurry. It also lets me shut off and drain the line (ok, so there are two valves ).

When you have a big Ooops with the icemaker line, it's nice to be able to shut things down without pulling out the 'fridge. For us this is even more critical because the appliances these days have very narrow wheels on them and they will leave a mark on the hardwood floors. I had no idea that wheel plastic was so expensive :laughing:! When we moved around the appliances to install them, I had to put some 1/8 inch luon (sp?) board down (same stuff you put under tile) so the floors would not be damaged.

Wordy post short, consider having some sort of shut off value you can get to in a hurry without having to pull up the feet on the 'fridge and roll it out.

I've only come close to killing myself with electrical stuff, but every time I've made a plumbing mistake I got wet so I too am glad I'm an electrician (or sorts) and not a plumber .

Pete

Should nt you put tile on cement board? Or is this the old way if you did not do it over plywood.

 

[clemsonfor]

The reason I feel I need to move the water supply is because it also has cold??? filtered drinking water. That was how I discovered the issue. I was filling glasses of water to flush the system and get the air out as the directions called for. Took a little bit for it to sink in why I was getting glasses of hot water.:laughing:

I guess I should have known that something was wrong when it went together without any leaks the first time. Now that I've replumbed it, I've been fighting leaks for the last 20 minutes. I feel better now.

Not sure how that computes.:confused2:

After purging one or 2 glasses of water from the hot line you got hot water? I would think my dishwasher line would have 1 gallon of cold in it before the first warm gets there?

 

[eepete]

Should nt you put tile on cement board? Or is this the old way if you did not do it over plywood.

Sorry I was unclear here. This is the thin floor tile, kinda like linoleum, 1/8" thick, not ceramic tile like a bathroom floor might have. I forget the name of it, it has some 3 letter abbreviation. That tile uses the 1/8" "luan" (SP?) so that the seams in the 3/4 underlayment and nail heads don't pop up through the tile.

You are correct, the tile in our bath has extra plywood and then the cement backer board.

Pete

 

[Loren49]

I think the answer is it can work in the freezer but depends on certain conditions. I realize the plumbing freezing question is not from the original post - just have not found a site that seems to address that premise and backs its conclusion using scientific method.


Loren

 

[WayneB]

Both are actually true.

Hot produces clearer ice because dissolved air is much lower in hot water. When water freezes, dissolved air comes out of solution and causes the cloudiness you see in home-made ice.

I still don't understand why hot water freezes faster than cold, but by actual experiment, it does.

Evaporation is the strongest candidate to explain the Mpemba effect. As hot water placed in an open container begins to cool, the overall mass decreases as some of the water evaporates. With less water to freeze, the process can take less time. But this doesn稚 always work, especially when using closed containers that prevent evaporated water from escaping.

And evaporation may not be the only reason the water can freeze more quickly. There may be less dissolved gas in the warmer water, which can reduce its ability to conduct heat, allowing it to cool faster. However, Polish physicists in the 1980s were unable to conclusively demonstrate this relationship.

 

[dcyrilc]

After purging one or 2 glasses of water from the hot line you got hot water? I would think my dishwasher line would have 1 gallon of cold in it before the first warm gets there?

The instructions say to run for four minutes. I ran quite a few more than one or two glasses through it before it was getting warm.

 

[dcyrilc]

I think the answer is it can work in the freezer but depends on certain conditions. I realize the plumbing freezing question is not from the original post - just have not found a site that seems to address that premise and backs its conclusion using scientific method.


Loren

I'm finding this discussion interesting, so don't think you need to stop on my account.

One thing I might note to add to the discussion. When I had the hot water hooked up, it seemed as if the were small air bubbles entrained in the water. Once I hooked up the cold, the water ran clear.

 

[dmccarty]

Back after Hurricane Floyd flooded out a good bit of eastern NC I was down helping with the cleanup. An older couple had managed to get everything out of their house but the appliances. As we were removing the fridge we found out that they had hooked up the hot water to the ice maker on purpose to make quicker ice cubes.

We thought they were nuts.

I still think they are nuts. :laughing:

So you push HOT water into the FREEZER to FREEZE water into ice cubes. That has to raise the temperature in the freezer. Likely by just some small amount but it still has to cause a temp rise. At some level this has to cost you more money. One to heat up water to freeze it. Then more power/money to cool off the HOT water in the FREEZER. And if the hot water is evaporating in the freezer would it then not condense in the freezer which causes more power to be used in the defrost mode?

WHY is it some important to freeze your ice cubes faster?
Is it worth the money? :laughing:
Even if it is only a nickle?

Later,
Dan

 

[jonyyuma]

Okay, Yeah, i have read it before too. But i still used the regular water for my icemaker. I figure it has to save some energy..Jy.