Thinking about building, wondering about utilities

/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities #1  

Groo

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I am looking at building my next home, now that I have ruined my credit. I am planning on doing most of the work myself, but I have some basic infrastucture questions.

The site I am considering is about 1/2 a mile from the nearest pole. how much is it to run utlities? any restrictions in general on running burried power and phone?

any clue on aproximate cost of a septic tank and field?

how about a well (I know it all depends on depth)?
 
/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities #2  
It all depends on where you live and how your utilities work. I've read posts from people all over the country on here, and it's amazing how different it all works.

In my part of the country, running power into a property is based on the load demand of that property. If you use allot of electricity, they take that into consideration on what they will charge you to install the power lines. Most residential installs will qualify for one pole about 300 feet into the property for free. Then it's based on the cost of wire, which varies quite a bit. If you go underground, the price is more because it's more expensive wire. You can only go so far at 240 volts, so you will either need to put the transformer at or near the house and run high voltage to the house, or you can have the transformer at the property line and run the wire from there to the house. If you do that, you will have issues with the distance. The farther you go, the bigger the wire you will need. Aluminum is allot cheaper, but copper carries electricity better. Then the trench may be something you can do, or not. It will depend on the supplier. Same thing with installing the wire. If you can dig the trench and install the wire, you can save allot of money, but that's only if they allow you to do this.

Phone is almost always installed by a vibratory trencher. They just drive the tractor from the box where the wires are connected to the building. In my experience, there is no charge for this, but I've never gone more then a 1,000 feet.

Septic laws are always changing. It used to be that a septic tank and leach field for a three bedrrom house was around $5,000 in an open field that has good soil in it. Dealing with other conditions or soil types can easily add allot to this price. Same thing with permits and the local economy. Some parts of the country are just expensive no matter what you do and for the same thing with the same results, you can pay twice to four times as much. Recently, it's becoming harder to get a permit for a regular septic system. Arobic systems are the prefered method in some of my local counties, and they are in the $8,000 range to have one installed for a 3 bedroom home.

I know a guy who spent $100,000 for a system to handle a 24 space RV Park near here. He wasn't happy about that, but didn't have a choice.

If you fill out your profile, more specific details for your area can be shared, if not, then these figures are good starting numbers for East Texas.

Eddie
 
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I agree with Eddie. You have to give an idea of what part of the world you are in to get any real info.

My last power hook up was free above ground, $2.00 a foot underground. The septic was $10k on a difficult site and the well was $10k and deep. That was N. Georgia 10 years ago.

MarkV
 
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Well I just moved in my doublewide on a new piece of land here in SC. It cost me $3500 for the septic with a 265 ft drain field and running the water line up the drive 1600 ft. The electrical in my area is already underground and I haven't gotten any extra bill from SCE&G. I believe it was around +/- 400 ft.

I know now that the standard meter base is no longer allowed. You have to buy one with an external disconnect, for another $140-$160.

Tread
 
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3 years ago I was priced $10,000:eek: for a 3/4 mile of phone line(1/2 mile on my property and I had to pay for a 1/4 mile on public right of way). I decided I could get along fine on cell phones;) and satelite internet:(. Fortunately I already had power to within 1 pole of the home site. septic was around $5000(rock on site). 15 years ago I needed 1/4 mile of power line to an Ag production building. The cost was around $7,000(the 1/4 mile of phone then was around $500:confused:). Since it was a high usuage building they refunded the money to me after the building construction was finished.
 
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Each is very different, the only way TBN can help is if someone in your state, county, and jurisdiction lives there. The only way is to get hold of each local utility and ask them. ( If you are in Lee County Texas around 20K.)
 
/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities #7  
About 10k per pole around here for power depending upon what you're looking for. Cheaper to hire a sub contractor rather than the utility to run the poles and wires.

Septic is 8-10 K around here depending upon size of house. Just priced a $42k septic near the lake, so it varies depending upon house, soil conditions and location.

I always budget 10k for a well around here when I do a house package. That is for everything up to 500' deep, pressure tank, excavation etc...
 
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In the area of north central WV, the electric company would set the first pole free up to 375' and $6.50 a foot after that. That includes clearing a 30' ROW. I am waiting for the estimate (sticker shock) for the job.
 
/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities #9  
our septic was 5K standard single chamber with lateral drain field.

well usually runs 5-10K depending on depth.

my friend had to extend power to his place. it was roughtly $1/ft overhead.
 
/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities
  • Thread Starter
#10  
Thanks for the numbers.

The site is on the MI side of the MI/WI border. around 46degrees lat.

The ground has plenty of natural springs nearby, so I expect the well wont have to be all that deep.
My only concern is that bedrock might be near the surface.
 
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Surface water and drinking water are two completely different things. Don't assume anything until you know the regulations, because what might seem like common sence will have nothing to do with what the government requires.

I've heard stories of people trying to get a well drilled fairly close to a stream, but couldn't find water several hundred feet down. The last I heard, they were going to try to fracture the walls of the well to see if they could get some water to come into the hole that way. Lots of money and no water.

Another concern is if you can build at all. If you have so many springs that the land is a "wetland" then it will be just about impossible to get permits or a loan to build.

Good luck,
Eddie
 
/ Thinking about building, wondering about utilities
  • Thread Starter
#12  
it too hilly for a wetland. There was a well drilled less than a mile from the site, pretty sure they hit a couple different aquifers in less than 200'

I'm not sure whats needed for permits. thats one thing I'll have to look into. I'm thinking maybe nothing because its outside the city limits, and the township is fairly lax about some of that stuff. getting a house that can be insured might be the standard to shoot for.
I'm hoping I can get away with doing the plumbing and electrical myself. I've spent too much time fixing mistakes from bad electricians already in my life. I'll probably have to get it inspected or something.
 

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