Tc 40da adding Rear remotes

[ND teacher]

I was looking at adding a set of rear remotes. I could not find the thread on rear remotes on this website. I thought i recalled that there is an order in which ones to purchase first. I am only buying one for the time being. I also want to use it to run a set of remotes to the front of the loader. I was online and seen some electric over hydraulic for the third hydraulic on the loader, but i dont want to get envolved with that yet. I can use the rear hydraulic for many things and can get by with a set of hoses to the front loader. ANy advise on the rear remote purchase. I find myself informing the dealership about things on my tractor that i learned from on this website. Thank you for any advise on the tractor.

 

[Jerry/MT]

I was looking at adding a set of rear remotes. I could not find the thread on rear remotes on this website. I thought i recalled that there is an order in which ones to purchase first. I am only buying one for the time being. I also want to use it to run a set of remotes to the front of the loader. I was online and seen some electric over hydraulic for the third hydraulic on the loader, but i dont want to get envolved with that yet. I can use the rear hydraulic for many things and can get by with a set of hoses to the front loader. ANy advise on the rear remote purchase. I find myself informing the dealership about things on my tractor that i learned from on this website. Thank you for any advise on the tractor.

To run a loader requires two sets of rear remotes;one for the lift and one for the bucket curl. The best thing to do is to get the special manifold that taps into the main pump and connects to a loader vave with two circuits. Then you can have a separate rear remote for other uses

 

[ND teacher]

Sorry Jerry MT I left out that I have a loader with midmount hydraulics on the joystick with 2 speed. I was looking to run a grapple on a bucket, or for a front mount post digger to spin it. I would like to add a third set of remotes in the center mount but i was told you cant add a third set in the center. So as an alternative i was going to add a rear remote

 

[RickB]

I was looking at adding a set of rear remotes. I could not find the thread on rear remotes on this website. I thought i recalled that there is an order in which ones to purchase first. I am only buying one for the time being. I also want to use it to run a set of remotes to the front of the loader. I was online and seen some electric over hydraulic for the third hydraulic on the loader, but i dont want to get envolved with that yet. I can use the rear hydraulic for many things and can get by with a set of hoses to the front loader. ANy advise on the rear remote purchase. I find myself informing the dealership about things on my tractor that i learned from on this website. Thank you for any advise on the tractor.

It is fairly intuitive. If you have no rear remotes and want to add one, buy the first remote valve kit (p/n 84171956). If you have one and want to add another, buy the second remote valve kit (p/n 84171957). If you have none and want to add two, buy both.

 

[jinman]

Everytime you buy a remote kit: #1, #2, or #3, the kit comes with longer bolts in each kit to replace the shorter ones from the previous installation. The kits are so complete and well-thought-out that they go together very easily. The only thing they do not come with is teflon paste or teflon tape for the fittings. In order to get the fittings good and tight so you don't seep fluid, the teflon tape/paste is necessary. It works as a lube for the fitting's threads as well as a gap sealer. Remove your right rear tire to make the job a simple task.

I know I've posted this a gazillion times, but here is a photo of me when I was installing my three rear remotes.

 

[ND teacher]

I thought i had read one time here that someone was purchasing remotes and they had purchased the wrong one or one with an open center or closed center etc. I was thinking there might have been options of different hydrualic systems or set ups. I just wanted the basic hydraulic set up and i didnt want to make a mistake in buying something only to learn later there was a better solution.
Jin man if you have time could you post the installation link again i remember seeing it before, i guess i could look through your posts but im sure you have about 13,000 of them. I figrured now would be a better time to install it before i put weight or load the tires.

 

[RickB]

The kits come with fairly good instructions as well. Only use sealant on tapered pipe threads. The use of sealants on banjo style, or flared type fittings will all but guarantee leakage.

 

[ND teacher]

Just called Titan machinery and they want $560.00 for the kit and an additional $230.00 for the valve. I was expecting around 600 but 800 holy crap!

A second kit was 523 and 230 for the valve

I wonder if a dealer other than titan machinery would be selling it for less, they have a monopoly here and they stick to their prices.

 

[jinman]

ND Teacher, I didn't post the pictures of the whole process. That was PineRidge who had that on his website and the website changed and the link is now gone. Someone else may have posted steps, but I don't remember.

I don't understand the pricing on your remotes. Everything needed was included in a single kit. Let me check on that for you and get back here with what I find.

EDIT: I just checked messicks.com website. The complete kit, including the valve, is:

Replacement for REAR REMOTE KIT
REMOTE KIT
84171956
Takes 1 to equal PN#710366036
$562.80 In Stock : 1

They also sell a replacement valve only for a little over $230. It appears your dealer, Titan, is charging you for the kit and another valve. I'd order from messicks.com if I were you. I don't think your dealer is doing you any favors.

 

[ND teacher]

Thanks Jinman! I just ordered it,should be here next wed or thur. I asked for the part number from Titan and it was one number off of the one at messicks. The number starting with an 8 was updated to the 7 number. The 8 number that titan gave me had no new crossreference so the person at messicks figured it was an outdated kit with no valve. I found my new parts store!
Thanks

 

[jinman]

Thanks Jinman! I just ordered it,should be here next wed or thur. I asked for the part number from Titan and it was one number off of the one at messicks. The number starting with an 8 was updated to the 7 number. The 8 number that titan gave me had no new crossreference so the person at messicks figured it was an outdated kit with no valve. I found my new parts store!
Thanks

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[RickB]

I never heard of a valve kit for a TC that didn't come with the valve slice. Other models, yes, but a Class III TC, no.

 

[ND teacher]

Thats what i was told and i asked for both part numbers. This came from Titan machinery the largest case/NH dealership. They own many dealerships, and this one sells more compacts than any of the others in ND.

 

[RickB]

They own many dealerships, and this one sells more compacts than any of the others in ND.

That doesn't make it gospel. I'd be interested to know if you had to order one part number or two from Messick's to get a complete kit.

 

[ND teacher]

The lady on the phone only had one number she ordered(so she said) and the number was the same one that jinman sent me. I dont know if Titan is the largest dealer, i had heard they owned the most amount of dealerships, i know that doesnt make it gospel, but i am glad to have another dealership to price compare. Every dealership ive called in ND were owned by Titan. And each one tells me the same thing "we are owned by titan all titan dealerships keep the same prices accross the board.

 

[ND teacher]

Rear remote arrived wednesday a day ahead of time. Started at 930pm and finished torqing the rear wheel on at 11:30pm. What excellent directions. sone questions i have.

Jinman and others when i installed the kit the only place required or suggested for thread sealer was at the couplers at the back of the tractor, and they were already screwed on. I was so tempted to put it on the rest of the threads, but i sustained? Anyone else? I just hope i dont have to take the tire off again to put thread sealer on to fix a leak.

Question 2. When i work at the farm all our tractor hydrualics when whe push the lever or remote to the front of the tractor the implement in the rear goes into the ground. Likewise when we pull back on the remote the implement goes up. When we would hook up unmarked hydraulics and the remotes would be opposite of that we would just simply reverse the hoses. Does anyone see anything wrong with this on my boomer? I didnt put the decals on it yet cause they would show the reverse. THe 3pt you push forward and the imp. goes to the ground, so why not keep the rear remotes the same? THe pump should have the pressures the same whichever direction you push the remotes correct? Or is this something that would affect a hydraulic driven motor like a post hole digger?

 

[jinman]

Rear remote arrived wednesday a day ahead of time. Started at 930pm and finished torqing the rear wheel on at 11:30pm. What excellent directions. sone questions i have.

Jinman and others when i installed the kit the only place required or suggested for thread sealer was at the couplers at the back of the tractor, and they were already screwed on. I was so tempted to put it on the rest of the threads, but i sustained? Anyone else? I just hope i dont have to take the tire off again to put thread sealer on to fix a leak.

Question 2. When i work at the farm all our tractor hydrualics when whe push the lever or remote to the front of the tractor the implement in the rear goes into the ground. Likewise when we pull back on the remote the implement goes up. When we would hook up unmarked hydraulics and the remotes would be opposite of that we would just simply reverse the hoses. Does anyone see anything wrong with this on my boomer? I didnt put the decals on it yet cause they would show the reverse. THe 3pt you push forward and the imp. goes to the ground, so why not keep the rear remotes the same? THe pump should have the pressures the same whichever direction you push the remotes correct? Or is this something that would affect a hydraulic driven motor like a post hole digger?

Outstanding! Two hours of enjoyment doing something like that is two hours well spent. I would not worry about leaks unless they become a problem. If you got the flare fittings tight, they should be fine. If your quick connects leak, first tighten them if you can before doing anything else.

The beauty of remotes is you set them like you like them. I like to have my grapple close when I move the lever forward and open when I pull it back. By placing the hoses as you wish, you make everything work the way you want it to. What feels good to you is the only thing that matters. If somebody else wants it the other way, it's a snap to change.

Congratulations! You'll love having remotes and will surely want more. They are as addictive as any drug.

 

[ND teacher]

I know, a tractor without a remote is almost as bad as a tractor without a drawbar. I can see myself getting one more so that way if i would have a grapple hose running to the front and an implement on the back i would have an extra one if needed. We always had 3 remotes on our plowing tractors, 2 for the plow and one for the drill. I was just curious as to why people would have two and even three. Not saying they are not needed, but i want to load the tires but if i can scratch up enough $ i would like to add a second while i can still move the tire by myself without another loader, but i do have a engine hoist? I a second remote on the wish list it is towards the bottom, but any ideas could move it towards the top.

Needs
72" fiishing mower(im doing research but so many of them?)
Ballasting of some kind, load tires or home made wheel balast or home made ballast box

Wants
3pt quick attach hitch
Rotary cutter
Box blade
Tiller
Snow bucket or pusher
Rear chains
Rock or manure fork
second hydraulic

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I know, a tractor without a remote is almost as bad as a tractor without a drawbar. I can see myself getting one more so that way if i would have a grapple hose running to the front and an implement on the back i would have an extra one if needed. We always had 3 remotes on our plowing tractors, 2 for the plow and one for the drill. I was just curious as to why people would have two and even three. Not saying they are not needed, but i want to load the tires but if i can scratch up enough $ i would like to add a second while i can still move the tire by myself without another loader, but i do have a engine hoist? I a second remote on the wish list it is towards the bottom, but any ideas could move it towards the top.

Here is an example, 2 for Top and tilt hydraulics for your 3pt hitch and a 3rd for the implement and more if you happen to have an implement that needs more. I guy that use to be on TBN needed 6 for his tractor and rear blade. I have 3 each on 2 of my tractors right now, but I need to go to 4 to be able to have full use of a couple of my implements. So forget about that 2nd remote and start thinking about the 2nd and 3rd remote and don't forget about those top and tilt hydraulics that you need but just don't know it yet.

 

[nickel plate]

My new bucket grapple is set up like jinman's, lever forward, grapple closes. Having a small cluster of hydraulic implements, I color code all the implement hoses and tractor remotes with corresponding blue and black caps and plugs, no hooking up guess work beyond that point.
As for your female remotes being pre-installed with tape, mine were too. For a while I thought I might have been sent a "previously owned" second set of remotes as the included instructions tell you to thread and tighten. Glad to here yours were the same. Maybe there were problems with some tractor owners trying to do that themselves?