Taking the state of the nation seriously?

[Bob_Skurka]

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Don, you and I both complained that the thread was getting political, but I honestly don't know how to take the image you posted.

Is it a message that implies the Mayor of New Orleans should have had an evacuation & shelter plan for his city and the blame is on him? Or that the Parrish officials should had an evacuation & shelter plan for the Parrish and the blame should be on them? Or do we go up the the Governor of the state? Honestly I don't know the politics of that area so I don't know if I am picking on one dominant political party or both of them and in any case it seems like there is plenty of evidence that the evacuation was simply botched or perhaps just ill conceived.

 

[OkeeDon]

I'll reply bluntly for as long as it lasts. That sign is the one that appeared on Harry Truman's desk. A previous poster was complaining that the President should not be blamed for the lack of action by his cabinet members and department heads ("It's not the president's fault.....not one darn bit. It's the agencies such as FEMA and the joke Dept of "Homeland Security" that he entrusted to be on top of these things.")

Harry Truman would have taken the responsibility.

 

[marrt]

To see people quoting Truman regarding a humanitarian tragedy is...interesting.

In this country, the local governments are the ones who have the responsibility to respond first to any tragedy. The city should have been planning for this for years. Where was the stockpiled food and water? What was the plan if the police abandoned their posts to check on their own families? What was the plan if the communications infrastructure collapsed? Their plan for all these, it seems, was to scream for the federal government to come to the rescue and to play the race card to speed them up. Not a good plan as it turns out.

My take away from all this is that you have to be prepared to take care of yourself. Especially if "civilization" temporarily collapses for some reason. And it's not bad advice for all other times as well.

 

[Sigarms]

Ok, not a political statement, but a FACT.

If you can't take care of yourself, and you need someone else to take care of you, you get what you get.

People die, right or wrong, life is not fair.

What the heck ever happen to being "independent" (aka self reliant) in this country?

Let's all go to a shelter and complain about the "services". Heck, if you don't like it, leave!

I've donated my money, I hope they put it to good use.

They built the city knowing what could happen, and it did.

 

[Bob_Skurka]

To Everyone, but nobody in particular, but I really hope the Moderators & site owners take this to heart!


We have STRAYED into POLITICS. Not just on this thread but on all the threads about Katrina. Now you might think that a right wing Republican type who swings a bit right of the John Birch Society, hangs around with the great great great grandchildren of Attilla The Hun, and who was honored to not only work the Dan Quayle Campaigns but also accepted an invitation to visit the Reagan White House and has met with a former Prime Minister of England and discussed terrorism, Arafat, Hafasd Al Assad, well you'd have to think that I would LOVE THE RIGHT WING BIAS that I see in these threads. After all, "my side" of the political spectrum is well represented in these forums. But it really strikes me that while the "right" generally is trouncing the "left" none of it belongs here!

I think the moderators are allowing these threads to go on too long. I think the moderators are deleting some of the posts that support the left (and showing a further right bias). I think that we are not being productive, and in fact we are DIVIDING OURSELVES and DRIVING OFF members that we really should be talking tractors with.

This is not a political site.

This is a tractor site.


PLEASE, moderators, PLEASE stop these discussions before our obvious right wing bias chases off some of our left wing tractor owners who we really enjoy having here. We really don't need to know each other's political bias to discuss tractors. And I am just as guilty at injecting bias as the rest, so I will take my lumps and accept my own criticism. Now can we close these threads before too much damage is done?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I've typed, then deleted 4 seperate replies. I just didn't think they made my point in terms I was happy with.


Thanks Bob, you just said what I WANTED to say.


This thread, much like the relief effort itself, has become all too political. We all know what we think.


And this ISN'T the time, nor the place to settle our political differences.

Thanks Bob.