Tailwheel vs impact gun

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Well so far its brushhog tail wheel 1 and craftsman impact wrench zero.

I had to replace my bolts that hold the tailwheel onto the hub of my brushhog, however i think ive burned out my 1+ y.o.craftsman impact wrench trying to drive in 3 bolts. I think the thread angles were different so they were being contancerous ( sp?).

Anyone have any advice on a good impact wrench? Mine just blows out the bypass and doesnt spin. I added some machine oil, adjusted the pressure to spec, but still nothing.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #2  
My old Powerfist (from Princess Auto) was acting weak too some time ago and I discovered that the end plate on the back of it was a bit loose, actually one little bolt had already fallen right out:eek:. Tightened them all back up and all of a sudden it was like I'll given it a shot of adrenalin or Red Bull or some such. Worth a try!:2cents:
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #3  
Sounds like a lubrication problem with that gun, leaving the vanes in the air motor stuck a bit -- doesnt take much. Have you been feeding it a few drops of light oil and/or Kroil before and after each use. If not feed it a bunch and let it blow thru and see if you can get it to start and run both ways. This willblow out the small amt of crap caked in the vane grooves and it will be good as new ... almost.

...It may also be that the particular gun you have isnt a high power design and wont be enuf even working right. If that turns out the case, shop Ingersol Rand, Chicago Pneumatic, and other name brands for ones in the 600ftlb torque delivery range. Usually $200 or less can get you a good, very powerful gun. Cheaper powerful ones will be slightly less durable but for home shop use they should still last well.
larry
 
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Thanks for the tip. Ive checked everything on there and cant seem to find anything loose. It did this a few mos ago when i needed most ( of course) and then it fired back up w/o a hitch. Now it just seems to be completely dead. Do the have a clutch or something inside that can give way? I dont know alot about the inner workings/impact mechanism. It was a combo kit w/ air rachet on sale so i bought on an impulse.
 
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One of these would be pretty nice. I have a snap on mg325 and it will out torque what my old 1/2" would.
 
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One of these would be pretty nice. I have a snap on mg325 and it will out torque what my old 1/2" would.

Your link is to a 2115 which is a 3/8" impact. Farther down the page, they show the 2135 which is the 1/2" and which most would want. My personal impact wrench now is an IR231 that I got at a pawn shop. There are lots of cheap impact wrenches and if you read the specs, get one with enough power, and keep it lubricated, it'll probably do just fine. If you want one for which parts are available if it needs repair, Snap-on is good if you don't mind paying double or triple for any parts you need, otherwise go with Ingersoll-Rand or Chicago Pneumatic or MAC, Matco, etc. that are made by one of those.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #7  
Thanks for the tip. Ive checked everything on there and cant seem to find anything loose. It did this a few mos ago when i needed most ( of course) and then it fired back up w/o a hitch. Now it just seems to be completely dead. Do the have a clutch or something inside that can give way? I dont know alot about the inner workings/impact mechanism. It was a combo kit w/ air rachet on sale so i bought on an impulse.

You didn't say which model Craftsman you have, but I've never seen or heard of an impact wrench with a clutch. The impact mechanism is lubricated with grease on some impacts and with 20W or 30W non-detergent motor oil on the others. If it's grease, there's a tiny ball bearing somewhere on the exterior through which you can add grease with a needlenosed grease gun. If it's motor oil, there's a plug you unscrew on the side of the front housing. You set it down so that when you put oil in there, you fill it halfway. And then any of them needs air tool oil inserted through the air inlet to lubricate the air motor. A teaspoonful is a lot, normally. However, you cannot harm the tool by putting too much air tool oil in the air intake. It will simply blow the excess out the exhaust.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #8  
If what you have is this Craftsman Ratchet/Impact Combo Kit it should have plenty of power and if you set it down, upside down (handle up) there should be an "oil" plug on the side not shown in the picture. You remove it with an Allen (hex) wrench to put 30W motor oil in there. Non-detergent is recommended, but any will do. With it set down upside down, turn it so oil will run back out if you fill it more than half full. Those tools have an oil seal in the nose around the anvil and if it goes bad, the oil will leak out the front.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #9  
I have an IR2135 at home and at work. No complaints at all. VERY powerfu and VERY light. I think you can get one around $250-$300. Well worth it IMO
 
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I have an IR2135 at home and at work. No complaints at all. VERY powerfu and VERY light. I think you can get one around $250-$300. Well worth it IMO

The first time I got an IR2131 (predecessor to your 2135) in for repair was also the first time I'd seen one and I couldn't believe they'd made a plastic impact wrench (composite) with an aluminum alloy cylinder.:laughing: But they're hard to beat for a half inch impact.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #11  
Your link is to a 2115 which is a 3/8" impact. Farther down the page, they show the 2135 which is the 1/2" and which most would want. My personal impact wrench now is an IR231 that I got at a pawn shop. There are lots of cheap impact wrenches and if you read the specs, get one with enough power, and keep it lubricated, it'll probably do just fine. If you want one for which parts are available if it needs repair, Snap-on is good if you don't mind paying double or triple for any parts you need, otherwise go with Ingersoll-Rand or Chicago Pneumatic or MAC, Matco, etc. that are made by one of those.

I posted that one because it would probably do more than what the average home owner/ tractor owner would need. Alot of people would probably get their selves into trouble with it. I very rarely have to use a 1/2 and a wrench for a living on automobiles. I guess for another $20 it would be worth it to go to the 2135, it just won't get into the places the 3/8 will.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #12  
The first time I got an IR2131 (predecessor to your 2135) in for repair was also the first time I'd seen one and I couldn't believe they'd made a plastic impact wrench (composite) with an aluminum alloy cylinder.:laughing: But they're hard to beat for a half inch impact.

Yea,the plastic/composite makes it REALLY light though. But even being "plastic" it is tough as nails. You are right, they are VERY hard to beat.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #14  
Your link is to a 2115 which is a 3/8" impact. Farther down the page, they show the 2135 which is the 1/2" and which most would want. My personal impact wrench now is an IR231 that I got at a pawn shop. There are lots of cheap impact wrenches and if you read the specs, get one with enough power, and keep it lubricated, it'll probably do just fine. If you want one for which parts are available if it needs repair, Snap-on is good if you don't mind paying double or triple for any parts you need, otherwise go with Ingersoll-Rand or Chicago Pneumatic or MAC, Matco, etc. that are made by one of those.
It is not my intention to jump in on the OP's concerns, but I have a question. I only have a 2 gallon portable air compressor that I use to air up trailer tires and our Son's golf cart tires. I always wanted an air impact gun. Would my 2 gallon portable air compressor be sufficient? I think not. Could you please offer some insight. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #15  
time for another gun.

I bought a 3/4 and 1" gun from harbor freight. waited till they went on sale.

they are big and heavy and will either remove a nut or wring the shank off.. assuming you have the compressor to push them.. and correst hose and fittings..



Well so far its brushhog tail wheel 1 and craftsman impact wrench zero.

I had to replace my bolts that hold the tailwheel onto the hub of my brushhog, however i think ive burned out my 1+ y.o.craftsman impact wrench trying to drive in 3 bolts. I think the thread angles were different so they were being contancerous ( sp?).

Anyone have any advice on a good impact wrench? Mine just blows out the bypass and doesnt spin. I added some machine oil, adjusted the pressure to spec, but still nothing.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #16  
It is not my intention to jump in on the OP's concerns, but I have a question. I only have a 2 gallon portable air compressor that I use to air up trailer tires and our Son's golf cart tires. I always wanted an air impact gun. Would my 2 gallon portable air compressor be sufficient? I think not. Could you please offer some insight. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.

I think you're right. What does your compressor, or its manual, say the CFM (cubic feet per minute) or SCFM is at 90 psi? There's some variation, but figure that most half inch impacts air consumption will run 4 to 4.5 CFM at 90 psi. You say you have a 2 gallon compressor and I'll guess it's rated for no more than 2 SCFM at 90 psi. Now if it's up to full pressure of 90-125 psi and you hook it to an impact wrench, it'll spin the wrench momentarily, but for such a short time and with so little power that you'd just be wasting your time.

When I was a full time RVer, I carried a 2 gallon oilless DeVilbiss air-compressor for airing up tires and/or blowing dust off things and/or blowing out water lines. But for a half inch impact wrench, I carried an electric one.
 
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Keep in mind that NONE of these impact wrenches will torque what they are rated, they all torque less.
 
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I think you're right. What does your compressor, or its manual, say the CFM (cubic feet per minute) or SCFM is at 90 psi? There's some variation, but figure that most half inch impacts air consumption will run 4 to 4.5 CFM at 90 psi. You say you have a 2 gallon compressor and I'll guess it's rated for no more than 2 SCFM at 90 psi. Now if it's up to full pressure of 90-125 psi and you hook it to an impact wrench, it'll spin the wrench momentarily, but for such a short time and with so little power that you'd just be wasting your time.

When I was a full time RVer, I carried a 2 gallon oilless DeVilbiss air-compressor for airing up tires and/or blowing dust off things and/or blowing out water lines. But for a half inch impact wrench, I carried an electric one.
Thanks for the reply. Hope you have a good weekend.
 
/ Tailwheel vs impact gun #19  
It is not my intention to jump in on the OP's concerns, but I have a question. I only have a 2 gallon portable air compressor that I use to air up trailer tires and our Son's golf cart tires. I always wanted an air impact gun. Would my 2 gallon portable air compressor be sufficient? I think not. Could you please offer some insight. Thanks from the bottom of my heart.

The gallons of reserve you have dont much matter. You have to have a pump that will keep up. If it wont keep up, you could put your pump on a 60 gallon tank and it still wont keep up. It will just take a little longer before it falls behind enough that performance suffers.

But even if it is a small mpum and small tank, 2 gallons with a good gun should be enough to break loose a fastner. And then once loose, even if it drops down to 40 psi, should still be pleanty to back it the rest of the way out. You might just have to wait a minute or two to charge back up to attaack the next fastner though. But with a 2 gallon tank, it should take long to build back up
 
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Keep in mind that NONE of these impact wrenches will torque what they are rated, they all torque less.

I'm sure all are rated under ideal conditions; temperature, humidity, air pressure, size and length of hose, new tool with precise lubrication, etc. and you and I aren't likely to exactly replicate those conditions.:laughing:
 

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