T-1 line WaHOOOOOO

/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #21  
PaulB,

I'm shooting from the hip on this one but I think whats going on here is like comparing the old PONG game to the latest version of SEGA gameboy with quad SCV joysticks, 4wd, power top link automatic popcorn dispenser, tv rollover/tilt ejection system (unless its calcium ballasted).... ok I'll shut up now and get back to the PONG game...........
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #22  
Bird,

Don't feel bad, my test result was only 19.8 kbps. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

DaveV
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #23  
T1 charges have historically been very high which led to the popularity of other modes of high speed communications such as DSL, ADSL, cable modems, etc.

T1 charges have a flat base and then an additional charge for each mile from the closest telephone company POP (switching office/building). T1 lines require a very strong signal which only carries a couple miles but can have repeaters added every mile or so to boost the signal.

I wish I could get/afford a T1 but am 8 miles from the nearest town which is running on a repeater from a POP 25 miles away. The charges, last my brother checked, would be in the neighborhood of $1500/mth. I like TBN, but not enough to warrant that /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif.

DaveV
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #24  
You can't be any more lost than I am, PaulB, but at least I've read enough on this discussion that I know that I don't need to know what a T-1 line is, since I obviously couldn't afford it, even if I understood it./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Besides that, I'll bet it doesn't even exist out here in the boondocks.

Bird
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #25  
I use a T-1 at work, but here at home our phone lines are real slow. I ran the MSN test and I'm still waiting for the results. Hopefully next week.....
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #26  
Bob, I got my T-1 thru Sprint, and is was a frustrating deal getting it setup (this install date kept moving), but they did finally get it in, and I have been happy with Sprint and the service and support since then. I originally got pricing theu Sprint and UUnet. UUnet is clearly the leader in terms of a better infrastructure, but they are very pricey compared to just about anyone else. Once you are hooked up you will be hard pressed to tell the diff between UUnet and Sprint and anyone other major carrier).

UUNet wanted to charge me about $1500/month (including the local loop portion that Bell Atlantic/Verizon) charges, and that was for a BURSTABLE t-1 line (which means even though I had a full t-1 "pipe", I was only allowed to use 1/10th its capacity(128K) , on average, per month or would be bumpped into the next price range (could go has high as over $2000 month and I didn't like the variability of not knowing how much I was going to need to pay each month).

Sprint on the other hand costs me a lot closer to $1300 month for a FULL unmetered T-1. SO I have the full capacity of the pipe available to me and never need to worry about how much bandwidth I use.

Setup costs ran about $5-6 grand for a router and instllation but you could get away with a much more inexpensive router in most cases (I got a Cisco 2620 which was about $2800, you can get routers for a few hundred used).

A few months after instllation I ended up putting in a Watchguard firewall (another $3K expensive). This may or may not be necessary in your situation, but I have a 12 station network full of client data that I need to protect).

My guess is that in the 6 months that I got my T-1 from Sprint, the price has probably dropped even more, and will continue to do so don't get locked into a long fixed price contract. Better to pay a little more each month for a 12 month contract and then be able to renegotiate a better price in 12 months.

Good luck.
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #27  
Let's do a reality check on on that cop's
radar gun!
I clocked in the same as you, Jim.

4080 Kbps
500 K bytes/sec.

All this on a West L.A.
residential regular 'ol
line in my Dad's house.
Maybe the line respected my WebTV and b/w 20 yr. old tv I'm using for a monitor.
T-3 hear I come!

LazyK.gif

Lazy K - Chip
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #28  
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/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #29  
PaulB, as always, funny posts.
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #30  
Care must be taken when using those spped checkers. Most check the fastest possible speed at the monent the test is taken. They do not test the actual speed of your connection. Most of the testers are tying to sell you their service. The college that I teach at has a T-1 line and it runs slow in the afternoons just like mine at home, everyone on. I connect at 4600 bps but that does not mean the speed stay that speed. Every transfer the speed will can due to demand at that point in time.Remeber that the slowest telephone switch controls your transfer time and that is between your machine and the server you are trying to reach. Even T-1 lines are subject to these speed changes.

Dan L
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #31  
Muhammad,

I'm near Cereal City, Kelloggville,...Battle Creek, MI

Thanks, it appears that the speed test is accurate...but how did lazyK get such good results?

JimBinMI

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/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #32  
Guys,

I pay $39.95 per month for AT&T@Home Cable, same cable that my TV Cable comes in on!

JimBinMI

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/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #33  
Muhammad,

For the record, just ran the test again about 4 times, the range of speeds I got today are between 680-850 Kbps. I check it from time to time and regulary score off the chart.

Another thing that has seemed to help is that I upgraded to a new computer, went from a P133 to a 500 Mhz machine.

JimBinMI

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/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #34  
We only pay $495 a month for our T-1 at work, it is full bandwidth and unmetered. Installation including Cisco router was $500. It has been absolutely reliable for a year now.
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #35  
Which company is that through, Alan?

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/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #36  
EJB,

Thanks for all the great information! UUNet had called me with a "special", only $500 a month, and the usual rate was $1,100, as you noted. I suspect UUNet, Sprint and the others are going to HAVE to lower prices due to competition from wireless, DSL, etc.

I too would probably get a Cisco router, and a firewall will cost some dough. I am just getting tired of waiting and waiting and waiting for T-1 speed for $49.00 a month. I wonder if it ever will happen. I can't wait much longer, and will contact Sprint. One nice thing about UUNet is that they do not run through either MaeEast or MaeWest, by via their own fiber. So, hypothetically anyway, the packet loss and latency issues are better. I have seen comparisons of network speeds and packet loss data. UUNet and IBM are the best, at around half of average, and 1/3 of the worst.

You can Check here for all of the major net suppliers, how they compare. Sprint is actually MCI on the list.

Thanks again.

BobT.
A Indiana Boy
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #37  
I pay $51/3 months for my ISP. I have, ostensibly, a 56k modem and a plain vanilla voice line. The MSN test says 40.6Kbps and 5K bytes/sec. My computer/software says 49,333 bps. The MSN thermometer says I'm running fasteer than 56K.

Maybe one of you genius types can 'splain it to me???????? Am I getting along OK speed wise? Is the ISP ripping me off? Is Gore gonna give us 4 more years of Clinton?????? Sorry about that it IS 'lection nite.
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #38  
Pat,
The MSN thermometer is celsius, you have to multiply by 5/9 and add 32./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif This is first election I can remember where it had not been decided when I voted. West Coast rules. (not counting Florida)/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO #39  
Pat, your software will only register what the speed was at the initial handshake between your browser (computer) and the ISP. The MSN 'thermometer' will give you what it is at the moment it test your connection. Your modem is rated at 56K, BUT federal law regulates the speed around a max of 52k, the lines, telephone switching, and ISP equipment will all combine to give you a lower speed. Most telephone lines in rural areas are older lines with lesser quality and ability to carry bandwidth than newer updated lines in your newer subdivisions.
 
/ T-1 line WaHOOOOOO
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#40  
Fellow speed freaks,

Phone dude just left. Seems this T-1 stuff is a multi stage process to set up and I'm at stage two.

To give an analogy of the speed he told me this:

(preface) I'm currently hard wired to a 64K data feed line

He said the T-1 line will be the same as having 24 TOTAL 64K dedicated lines. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

I smiled, and told him that my 64K was ok and fast enough for my needs. He then just smiled and said I was going to LOVE the T-1. I could only agree with hardly hidden glee.
 

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