Surveyor Rant

[dodge man]

Um, the points goes down, we set the equipment up over the head of the nail. For nails, I actually use something more like the size of a landscape spike.

 

[KennyG]

The situation surprises me. I've had a number of surveys done and never found any evidence of the surveyors presence except the actual boundary markers. I always drove a metal post at the marker and put a pvc pipe over it. When I needed a survey again, I only got a paper showing markers "FIP" (Found In Place).

 

[coralhead]

That being said I should note I have nothing against surveyors, most are very professional, why in fact "some of my best friends are surveyors"

That being said, ask them how they put in traverse points. I'm quite sure they will tell you that they put the pointy ends in first.

 

[CobyRupert]

Well excuse me, I should of said "sharp nails sticking up", instead of "sharp pointed nails sticking up". What now, an argument about the sharpness of the edges of the nail head or whether than can damage tires, animals, people? My point still stands! (err, stands...pointed down)

 

[Pettrix]

Out in Arizona they have strong private property laws. If you have a sign displaying No Trespassing with the ARS code, people cannot enter your land, if they do they can be arrested and charged with criminal trespass. No police warning needed. As long as you have the sign posted.

As far as surveying go. Out here they put on REBAR pins and I hate that since a tractor or any tube tire vehicle can run that over and puncture/destroy their tire. I put rebar caps over the exposed rebar. Not to mention, a person or animal can be impaled by exposed rebar.

 

[TractorGuy]

On another note the surveyor that did the property next door (this instance is behind my property) that also left nails couldn't find all the existing corner markers so he set one,,, 2 feet from the concrete marker he failed to find. The funny thing is he simply uncovered and wrapped tape around the concrete markers he located and agreed with. My tape measure showed him 2 feet off with the one he set so I dug around and found the marker he couldn't find. Yup, it was 2 feet away from the one he set and matched the distance shown on the county plat. I know he didn't locate it because it had vegetation growing on top of it that wasn't disturbed. He also tried and failed to locate a corner marker 60 feet away because I saw where he dug and left the hole. After I located the marker he set a new one for. I simply pulled my tape 60 feet in the direction the other marker should have been and found it with 3 sticks of a long screwdriver.

The moral of that story was the guy couldn't read a tape measure and got lazy. There is no way he should agree with the middle marker and set a new one 2 feet beyond the distance shown on the county plat.

 

[TractorGuy]

Out in Arizona they have strong private property laws. If you have a sign displaying No Trespassing with the ARS code, people cannot enter your land, if they do they can be arrested and charged with criminal trespass. No police warning needed. As long as you have the sign posted.

As far as surveying go. Out here they put on REBAR pins and I hate that since a tractor or any tube tire vehicle can run that over and puncture/destroy their tire. I put rebar caps over the exposed rebar. Not to mention, a person or animal can be impaled by exposed rebar.

Wish we had those laws here!

All the corner markers on my property are 4" square concrete with a stamped metal button in the center. The new marker the guy set on one corner for the neighbor is rebar with a plastic cap on it.

 

[CCWKen]

Shortly after I got this property, I was planning to build a shop on the corner. I had a surveyor come out and cut 1 acre on corner. All I found was wooden stakes with ribbons. I had to drive my own rebar markers then I put about a cup full of concrete around the top of them to make them easier to find. I decided against the shop and declaring it commercial property but the rods are still there. I mow it but if I ever work (plow) that area, I'll have to locate the inside corner rod and pull it.

Also; apparently, surveying is more accurate today. The survey they did when I bought the property 20 years ago was slightly different than when it was cut from the original farm 50 years ago. My back corner changed by about a foot to my loss so the neighbor's fence doesn't line up with it either. :confused3:

 

[oosik]

Hmmmm.......... I really don't mind if a surveyor wants to cross or enter my property. They are not the type of individual that will be causing any problems. My property is a remanent of a government homestead granted in 1892 for - of all dam things - oil exploration. My SE corner is a section corner so when a neighbor down the way wanted his property surveyed - the surveyor came back and established my SE, NE & NW corners by survey. The SW corner is out in the middle of my big lake and nobody - including myself - gives a toot about that.

BTW - all my 80 acres was by meets & bound description.

 

[kthompson]

dodgeman and coralhead; by your effort to explain from your point of view is appreciated I am sure by all and to me tells you are the professionals who do care. thank you
The worst issue I have had with a survey was when a licensed surveyor was willing to sign off for a person who could not read a map. He put private easement down as country road and decided not to keep the offset in a property line it was easier to just draw it straight. A professional got it taken care of by firming telling the licensed surveyor he was going to face action by what ever board supervises surveyors in our state. He really impressed me. He tracked down proper person in our county to write letter confirming it was easement only and so forth. kt

 

[two_bit_score]

Man, I hope for the sake of a few of y'all that you never have any hot mineral plays hit the area where your property is. You'd go nuts with all the activity of surveyors, thumper trucks, land men knocking on your door, etc.

I'd hate for some of y'all to have to deal with a pipeline company who decides they need to come through a corner of your place. Or worse your neighbor gets a wind lease and turbines are put up which you have to 'put up' with.

Worse I guess, for you would be if you refused to cooperate and the neighbor took the lease and the operator decided to put their battery on the neighbors property or their drilling rig set up 500' from your house.

It would make those two nails seem pretty insignificant in perspective. Not to minimize your serious problem or anything like that, though.


TBS

 

[joefromga]

There has to be a better way but it seems, like many industries, that they are protecting themselves with antiquated practices.

It would be similar to putting up a fence and the fence company telling the neighbors they have to also put a fence along the same line because they aren't allowed to use that existing fence. Which I'm sure happens a lot.

 

[comancheflight]

Had surveyors come across my back property around 20 years ago. They said my corner mark was the last 'good' mark that they could find for some property over 1/4 mIle away.. I have steep spoil banks they were crossing and using machetes they were cutting 10 -15' saplings down..really ticked me off for about a week and then forgot about it.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

What TBS said...
And if someone else owns the mineral rights and you only own the surface land, they will not only survey your land every which way, they can put well pads on your land and there ain't much you can do about it.