starting/turing over issue

[winston1]

May or may not be the case but the lower range gear you put it in the harder it will be to push. Put the range shift in a high gear or neautral to push. :thumbsup:

 

[jerfel]

any chance it will start while pushing it in gear, i would like to move it out of the yard to check the bearings? If so should I disconnect the injectors, I can't see where that would hurt since it don't run anyways?

 

[284 International]

I'm confused. Why would you want to push it while in gear, but not have it start? If you are trying to move it from the yard to the work area, wouldn't it be better to roll it in neutral?

If the throttle is on the off position, it won't start. The 2210 has a driven pump to engage the Powershift box, too, and disconnects the wheels from the motor when the engine is not running.


If the head is off still, compare the depths of the pistons at the top of their strokes. If they are different, you know you have a bent rod, which may also account for the tightness.

 

[winston1]

Maybe I wasn't very clear about the range shift. You would have the tractor transmission in neutral, and then the range shift in a higher range to push. Reason being you turn some of these gears when pushing even though the transmission is in neutral. The higher the range gear the easier the push.

 

[jerfel]

Oh, okay I get what you're saying now, thank you for the clarification on that

 

[clemsonfor]

I dont think you can push start a powershift trans? I know you can on a normal gear trans.

I also was thinking a bent rod maybe?

 

[284 International]

I forgot to mention this: I have heard others (specifically, California) mention, and it has been my experience, too, that the Powershift machines do not roll easily, even in neutral. I'm not sure why, but my 186D does not roll as easily as the similarly sized, but gear driven, 1401D. So you might not have a brake issue at all.

 

[Pete Judd]

My YM186d with a power shift has a big sticker that says "do not tow, it will damage the trany."

 

[Neat 1500]

I forgot to mention this: I have heard others (specifically, California) mention, and it has been my experience, too, that the Powershift machines do not roll easily, even in neutral. I'm not sure why, but my 186D does not roll as easily as the similarly sized, but gear driven, 1401D. So you might not have a brake issue at all.

Agree 120%, i can push the 1500 way easier than i can the YM14, and the 1500 is on ricers and weighs twice as much!

 

[Ginormous]

My YM2210 (Powershift) is harder to push than my YM1700 (normal geared), but it's not a big difference. I can easily push either by myself, at least when they are on a flat hard surface. I haven't tried pushing either one around the yard.

 

[clemsonfor]

I can push my ym 2000 almost as easy as my little 42" (hydrostat)MTD mower. The ym2000 on concrete is still hard to push, i can push my ford ranger way easier on the same surface than the tractor.

 

[California]

I read somewhere that Powershift is designed to partly engage both the forward and reverse clutches when it is standing still, and getting moving raises the pressure to release the 'dragging' unwanted clutch. Per what I read, this is to counteract the tendency to creep that is inherent in this type of internal clutch packs. Can anybody quote where this is documented? Can it be adjusted?

This 'bound-up' feeling is quite noticeable on my YM186D, while the YM240 (YM2000) rolls as easily as you would expect for a manual transmission in neutral.

 

[clemsonfor]

Makes sense. My friend has a Hydro JD 855. its hydrostat and different transmission than the Yanmar but is a yanmar made JD. ANY way my point is if you just take you foot off the GO pedal it will throw you over the steering wheel like you stomped the brakes, instead you have to slowly remove your foot. Im sure its something to do with the clutches to stop that fast!