Starter for YM2000

[kcktx1]

I am trying to find a starter for a Yanmar 2000. I have read where it is the same starter that is in a nissan 83 pickup, but the poster didnt put the engine size on his post. I also read where the starter is the Hitachi S104-114 but have been unable to locate one. Any help would be appreciated <font color="blue"> </font>

 

[greatrandini]

Hoye, the sponsor of this forum has them! Most of these starters can be rebuilt if you take them your local rebuilder.

 

[normde2001]

Why do you need a starter? If yours is rebuildable, you will be many $$$$ ahead to rebuild it.

 

[kcktx1]

I took it to one shop and they said it was in too bad of condition to rebuild. Most of the brass end of the armeture is destroyed, all of the brushes are gone and small pieces fell into the pasture when i took it off.

 

[kcktx1]

I took it to one shop and they said it was in too bad of condition to rebuild. Most of the brass end of the armature is destroyed, all of the brushes are gone and small pieces fell into the pasture when i took it off.

 

[normde2001]

According to Hoye, it's a Hitachi S114-146, but I couldn't find one of those either.

 

[LMTC]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( it's a Hitachi S114-146, but I couldn't find one of those either.)</font>

I don't think you will, either. We looked many years ago, and finally gave up. Rebuilt is around 175 + core. New is double that and then some.

 

[California]

There's a Denso starter with good availability that will replace the OEM starter. My YM240 arrived (used) with one.

Look on ebay for 'Yanmar Starter' then look only at the 15-tooth starters.

Here's a link to a current auction: NEW JOHN DEERE TRACTOR STARTER THERMOKING YANMAR 90-502, Seller:dbelectrical

That seller has been auctioning them for a year or two so should have one in the future as well. They are expensive -this is a new one for $240. However rebuild kits are inexpensive.

He lists the following detail which might help you locate a used one:

Brand New John Deere - Thermoking Starter for Yanmar engines

Starter - Denso 1.4kw Series
12 Volt, CW, 15-Tooth Pinion

This Denso starter is original equipment on many applications with Yanmar engines. It is also a higher torque replacement for the Hitachi gear reduction starters.

Applications:
JOHN DEERE TRACTOR - 750, 850, 870, 955, 900HC, 970, 1070, 3325
JOHN DEERE SKID STEER LOADER – 675, 675B, 4475, 5575
THERMOKING - KDII30 MAX, KDII50 MAX, SSIV, TD-II30 MAX, TD-II30 MAX
YANMAR ENGINES - 3T80, 4TN78, 4TN82

Replaces these part numbers:

Cummins - 3675205RX

Delco - 10465583, 10461659
Denso - 028000-0710, 028000-5730, 228000-3802, 5712800-071, 9712809-071
Hitachi - S114-116, S13-294, S13-94, S13-94A, S13-332
John Deere - AM877284, CH19284, TY6673, AM877285, CH12741, TY6648, TY6715
Thermo King - 45-1312, 845-1312
Yanmar - 119285-77010, 121120-77011, 121120-77010, 129400-77010, 129400-77011, 129400-77012

 

[FL_Jerry]

Because the Denso starter also replaces the other models listed, would those other models also fit the Yanmar 2000?

Jerry

 

[allenp]

I have been told the following starter is an exact replacement for the S114-146. I've never had a need so I can't vouch for the accuracy.

Available from NAPA under part number 91-25-1080 (Wilson Auto Electric), at a cost of approximately $180 (exchange).

 

[normde2001]

BINGO!!! . . That appears to be the one; however if they are $219, reman., w/exchange, $303, if your core is not rebuildable, that's pretty pricey. I would rather pay $400 new.
California, do you happen to have a part # off your Denso(Bosch) starter? I don't need a starter, but I am trying to compile a list of reasonably priced parts and/or reman. locations for future reference.

 

[California]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( California, do you happen to have a part # off your Denso(Bosch) starter? I am trying to compile a list of reasonably priced parts and/or reman. locations for future reference. -normde2001)</font>

YM121120-77010
Denso 02800-5730

Attached is an old photo I made of the engine model # tag and the rebuild date painted on the starter. The starter is out of focus, sorry!

Note a safety issue in the picture. Clamping a jumper cable or float charger to the large terminal can easily touch the crank-the-engine terminal an inch away. There should be rubber covers on both.

 

[RJYork]

I found this thread while searching for a replacement starter for my Yanmar 2210. I found the Nappa part number 91-25-1080 still worked. They wanted $259 for their starter. I also found a new part number RAY-446011 on the Nappa WEB site. The picture of the RAY-446011 looks like my starter.

I also shopped O'Reilly Auto and found that Dixie Electric makes a starter (Part Number S8789) that cross references the Hitachi S114-146 starter I just pulled out of my tractor. The part at O'Reilly Auto is selling for $159. I am sure all of these are rebuilt prices, and not new. The starter will be in next week. Then I will see if this is a good replacement. This site has helped me greatly. I hope someone else can find this information useful.

 

[LMTC]

We carry the S114-146 rebuilt for the same price, as do others. We have excellent parts support for the 2210. Does O'Reilly need a good core (we do...the core charge is nearly the price of the rebuilt starter)? If they don't, then that is a better buy for someone whose core is not rebuildable.

 

[1m21]

Local Yanmar dealer wanted $300 for the starter plus a $300 core since I had no starter for the core on my 1979 YM2000BD.

This one was WAY less, $157.95 delivered to my door with no core charge!

New John Deere 850 4-Cyl Diesel Tractor Starter 190-502 - (eBay item 280162428330 end time Oct-19-07 05:50:47 PDT)


Works fine if you extend the small "start" wire about 6".

 

[California]

I also shopped O'Reilly Auto and found that Dixie Electric makes a starter (Part Number S8789) that cross references the Hitachi S114-146 starter I just pulled out of my tractor. The part at O'Reilly Auto is selling for $159.

Ask O'Reilly if they require an identical core. If you have their permission to turn in a cheaper one, you might get back some of your cost by selling the core!

Recently at Autozone I had the following conversation.

"Group 27 battery? That's huge. Whats it for?"

Yanmar Tractor.

"Never heard of it. The computer says you have a Subaru. That takes a Group 35, about half the capacity of Group 27."

Ok, I'll buy this Group 27 for the Subaru then. Will you accept the Subaru battery for the core? (the 1999 Subaru battery has actually been in the tractor for the last 3 years).

"Sure...I guess...ok...I guess that makes sense... ".

 

[California]

Local Yanmar dealer wanted $300 for the starter plus a $300 core since I had no starter for the core on my 1979 YM2000BD.

This one was WAY less, $157.95 delivered to my door with no core charge!

New John Deere 850 4-Cyl Diesel Tractor Starter 190-502 - (eBay item 280162428330 end time Oct-19-07 05:50:47 PDT)


Works fine if you extend the small "start" wire about 6".

You did real good!! I think that's the same model starter I have. Something looks simplified about that auction photo. I wonder if that is a replica starter rather than a Denso.

On mine also, the 'start' wire is extended since the terminal is farther from the block - see my photo above.

 

[2manyrocks]

After reading this, yet another YM starter thread, the terrible thought came to me that maybe YM should give up on electric starters and start putting hand cranks on their tractors. Or all YM units should be manual gear to be parked at the top of a hill facing down to get started....or those of us with powershifts just need to leave them running all the time.