Starlink

[bdhsfz6]

location 4 is my vote.

buy this

https://www.ispsupplies.com/MikroTik-RouterBOARD-RBwAPG-60adkit

plug one side into a wired port on the star link (buy the adapter if need be)

put one on the other side. and buy a regular access point (not a router) and plug it into that side. the mikrotik stuff is plug and play and requires 0 configuration. these are rated to be outside.

starlinks have ice melters in them .

this allows you to have wireless at location 4, and at a seperate network in the house.

using the mikrotik will have 0 performance loss. they are rated at 1gbit each way.

Thanks for the link.

The Microtik system is rated to 100 meters (328') and may not work since Location 4 is over 410' away.

 

[LittleBill21]

I don't know why THAT website says that, its rated 1gb at 200 meters, I use a ton of their products.

https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/wAP60_180443.pdf

 

[bdhsfz6]

I don't know why THAT website says that, its rated 1gb at 200 meters, I use a ton of their products.

https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/wAP60_180443.pdf

Thanks again!

Will the Starlink Router work at temps down to -10F ?

 

[LittleBill21]

Thanks again!

Will the Starlink Router work at temps down to -10F ?

The original Wi-Fi router supported operating temperatures of +32°F to +86°F (0°C to +30°C) while the new one supports a wider range of -22°F to +122°F (-30°C to +50°C), according to the support FAQ. The new router also has an IP54 dust- and water-resistance rating, the same rating listed for both the old and new satellite dishes. These changes suggest that this new version of the router could be used outdoors, but the FAQ says the router is still "configured for indoor use."

Starlink’s new Dishy McFlatface is smaller and lighter, still costs $499

New dish is a rectangle; new router lacks Ethernet port but has some upgrades.

arstechnica.com

 

[bdhsfz6]

I suppose I could use a weatherproof enclosure at location 4 for the router if it is really good down to -22 F.

Can I just plug the Microtik receiver into my existing router at the house end?

 

[LittleBill21]

I suppose I could use a weatherproof enclosure at location 4 for the router if it is really good down to -22 F.

Can I just plug the Microtik receiver into my existing router at the house end?

thats a bit of a loaded question, if you already have a home wifi network your happy with, and have no interest in wifi out at the location, you would put the starlink router in "bypass mode" and plug the mikrotik into the WAN or internet port of the house router. No setting should need to be changed, other then maybe a reboot of the router.

if you don't do anything called "port forwarding" currently, then you can leave the starlink router alone, and plug into the same port on the house router. this will cause what is called double nat, but is not a issue, if your not trying to "remote back into your home network" for something like security camera's etc.. (that don't rely on the cloud)

 

[ponytug]

The original Wi-Fi router ... These changes suggest that this new version of the router could be used outdoors, but the FAQ says the router is still "configured for indoor use."...

I suspect, but don't know, that the "configured for indoor use" for the new router may relate to how the 5GHz WiFi channels are configured, as there are certain 5GHz channels not permitted for use outdoors in the US... (WAG)

I would second @JethroB's advice to try out locations before getting too serious about what it takes.

And try the app- did I mention it is helpful?

All the best,

Peter

 

[bdhsfz6]

thats a bit of a loaded question, if you already have a home wifi network your happy with, and have no interest in wifi out at the location, you would put the starlink router in "bypass mode" and plug the mikrotik into the WAN or internet port of the house router. No setting should need to be changed, other then maybe a reboot of the router.

if you don't do anything called "port forwarding" currently, then you can leave the starlink router alone, and plug into the same port on the house router. this will cause what is called double nat, but is not a issue, if your not trying to "remote back into your home network" for something like security camera's etc.. (that don't rely on the cloud)

Thanks! I really appreciate your input.

I'm happy enough with my existing Netgear Nighthawk AC2400 router and I don't have any configurations that are out of the ordinary.

It looks like the best plan would be to use the Microtik link on a 70' span between the garage (location 2) and the house.

I've been doing some online research on the Microtik equipment and I'm seeing a lot of complaints about rain & snow blocking the signal, even on short distances. The 60Ghz band is definitely susceptible to this kind of interference, has it been a problem for you?

As others have suggested, I plan to experiment with temporary dish locations before deciding on a permanent solution.

Thanks Again for your help!

 

[ponytug]

There are other vendors of similar equipment, e.g. Ubiquiti with their Nanobeam products, that aren't at 60GHz, and other alternatives in the 60GHz spectrum with adaptive gain that may be less susceptible to interference, but all 60GHz will struggle, as it is absorbed by water. Some 60GHz have automatic rollover capabilities into lower frequencies when the 60GHz is too attenuated (e.g. some Gigabeam models) Microtek is a good brand, especially on the price/performance dimension, but there are definitely alternatives.

As Starlink may be at 12 or 21GHz, I would stay away from wireless products in those bands so as to not interfere with your Starlink.

All the best,

Peter

 

[LittleBill21]

Thanks! I really appreciate your input.

I'm happy enough with my existing Netgear Nighthawk AC2400 router and I don't have any configurations that are out of the ordinary.

It looks like the best plan would be to use the Microtik link on a 70' span between the garage (location 2) and the house.

I've been doing some online research on the Microtik equipment and I'm seeing a lot of complaints about rain & snow blocking the signal, even on short distances. The 60Ghz band is definitely susceptible to this kind of interference, has it been a problem for you?

As others have suggested, I plan to experiment with temporary dish locations before deciding on a permanent solution.

Thanks Again for your help!

I will be honest. I have not used the 60ghz stuff. I have used pretty much every other product they have. (only because I haven't had a project that needed this speed)

That said I know a gentlemen who has deployed about 15 of these units. he said short of a noah's arc rainfall, he never saw it drop. The units will drop speed to deal with signal degradation. at the distance's your talking I don't see it being an issue.

I picked these as there is no configuration and they stay out of the current 2.4 and 5ghz band your currently using, as ponytug said, ubnt makes a unit with a 5gz failover, if it comes to it, but that would take a bit of configuration.

I did a bit of googling, wasn't seeing much except for stuff over 1km, which is not you. can you provide a link or 2?

Wireless is a bit like dowsing. there is sometimes a bit of magic. fiber and copper ethernet are guarantee's

if you want to wait a bit amazon sells them as well, if you need to return them (they have a good review on amazon and people indicate michigan winters etc... don't just take my word for it, please read the reviews)

Amazon.com