Some people should stay in town!

[hobbyfarm]

Neighbors are the one thing that makes or breaks the area.
When I was about high school age, we used to work this 30 acre plot [just about every year grew either milo or cotton and rotated with some vegetables.] that the city had crept to the edge of. Around when the Agent Orange was in the news everywhere. When it was time to defoliate the cotton, here came the whiners to city hall to complain about the smell, alergies, etc.

<font color="red"> I think your whining neighbor is upset cause she can't eat [steal] milo.</font>

Perhaps you should educate her husband that farming is a business and not "something to to do until something more fun comes along". And just like a business, running it can be a 24 hour a day task.

My neighbor that has farmed most of the land "as far as the eye can see" since the 1930's recently found out that the grandkids had no interest in continuing the farming business. Well, he sold out to the developers a couple of years ago and now the view is just houses with boring privacy fences (just waiting to be graffittied). I'd wager that almost no one knows any of their neighbors now. Seems like an awful waste of some of Texas' best farmland. When we moved here 20+ years ago, there was a stripe of green grass growing down the middle of a sandy road, now it is several lanes wide of asphalt.

 

[Birdhunter1]

Yeah I got a permit, same permit needed for burning brushfires and shooting cans at will. It's in a language unusaul to some called guage and caliber. LOL
I can't stand them, to add to this story they let thier dogs roam and then complain when someone else's dogs come on their property. Long story short I saw her dog chasing cattle on a neighbors farm and at teh time I had my rifle with me and took the dog out, which is perfectly legal and ethical in IL (maybe most states). Anyway she asked me about a week later if I had seen their dog in the past few days, as if everything that happens in this area I know about it. Anyway I told her I hadn't seen it in the last few days (which was the truth because it had been a week) and I brought up that maybe it took of on a deer or something. She said her dog did not run deer blah blah blah, (which is funny cause I had been in a deer stand several times when a deer came by and her dog(s) were on it's heels, couldn't shooo then because I couldn't get a good shot)) and I mentioned if not deer then maybe cattle, then mentioned that livestock farmers can shoot animals that are harassing thier livestock and it is perfectly legal. That set her off, apparently I then accused her dog of chaising cattle and she flew off the handle. Perfect candidate for Ford and GM to develop a broom for an auto instead of an actual auto.
I really think her husband must have been an alcoholic a long time ago, how else could you marry something like that, I guess I should mention that she's also about 5' 5" and 200+ lbs. of nothin but ugly.

 

[Wannafish]

..."I saw her dog chasing cattle on a neighbors farm and at teh time I had my rifle with me and took the dog out, which is perfectly legal..."

I do not believe it is "perfectly legal" for you to shoot someones dog that is chasing someone else's livestock. If it was YOUR livestock, absolutely...but it was not.

I noticed you didn't have the ba**s to tell her what DID happen to her dog. If you shot it and knew it was hers you should have at least let her know so she wasn't waiting for it to come back. That act may have been enough for her to keep the rest of her dogs (if any) from leaving her property.

Your neighbor may be a pain, and I've had my share too, but it seems to me the line differentiating between your behavior and your neighbor's is beginning to thin. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Reading your thread thru I'm thinking your neighbor probably tells similar stories about you.

 

[Birdhunter1]

The way our local DNR official told me then if you work for the farm and you are related to the responsibility of the cattle then it still applies. I didn't lie to her, she asked if I'd seen it in the last few days and I hadn't, if she'd have ask "have you seen the dog in the last week" then I would have replied differetly.
She probably does tell stories about me, doesn't bother me a bit, we don't get along and that is something we both agree to. Not to take blame from my part but that incident was about 5 years ago when I was much dumber, even less diplomatic (or more of a smart***) and much more bull headed.

 

[SkyPup]

We don't call them "townies" for nothin' /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[Wannafish]

"Not to take blame from my part but that incident was about 5 years ago when I was much dumber, even less diplomatic (or more of a smart***) and much more bull headed."

Isn't it great how we can learn as we age. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I know what you wrote (above) applied to me 20 or so years ago...I like myself a lot better now. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I must have missed the part about you working for the farmer. Sorry. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[mark777]

Birdhunter1,

I'm a country boy, moved to the city, and now in the process of moving back to the country. We bought a little 2.5 acre, very neglected, wooded property. It was the neighbor hood dumping grounds. It was so bad that after the first week, of clearing and cleaning we found a 16' boat and trailer buried in 6' tall weeds and overgrowth on the back acre. This and all the property around us is in the 100 year flood plane. The only and biggest problem I have is it is located in the strictest county in S.E. Texas.

I have attempted to improve my property, and as a result, every time I fix a fence, or replace posts, the country inspector shows up stating I need a permit. Almost two years ago, I built my shop, with engineered plans, slab and site approved drawings submitted to the permit office. This has cost us thousands extra as everything must be raised 3' above flood plane. Permit for slab, clean fill, building w/o plumbing, and electrical supply. I have been "red tagged" three times in two years........but I have had the permits pending but approved.

It is all due to one neighbor who calls the inspector everytime he sees us doing anything other than mowing the land. The county inspector has said so....He will not however disclose which neighbor it is. But I know who it is. This sniveling little weasel, self appointed jerk has nothing better to do but pray I have not dotted the 'i' and crossed the 't'. This is the kind of neighbor nobody needs.......in fact because of him the county inspector and I are on a first name basis.

I just brought in 120 yards of fill, as I am moving in a double wide and plan to put it up on a simple slab. Before the last truck dumped his load, the country inspector was there. He admitted that of his 300 miles of territory, this street has had the most complaint issues that he has had to address. The inspector is certainly sick of it, I am sick of it, and a few other neighbors who have tried to improve their property are too.

Call me slow, but we finally figured it out. Every improvement we make, brings out the county accessor and he is worried that his property will be reaccessed. I would take the nasty neighbor lady any day of the week instead of this sneaky moron. He has cost us thousands in extra fill, steel and elevated driveways. We are the only people with tall buildings, elevated storange sheds, and a driveway that you can look down on other homes=properties on our little road.

Mark

 

[markct]

birdhunter1, all i can say is the more ya tell of this story the more it makes you look like being a jerk too, shooting the dog, well maybe that was ok, but then not telling her is the part that i would consider common decency,and ethicaly right, just cause she is a jerk doesnt mean you should be too, and as the other guy mentioned i think you are stretching the law a bit to have shot the dog chasing someone elses cattle on somene elses property

 

[dmccarty]

Wannafish,

Depends on the law in a given state. In NC the statue makes no mention of who owns the dog, livestock, or poultry nor on whose land the attack takes place. If the dog is attacking livestock ANYONE can kill the dog. If I'm driving down past my neighbor's farm who has cattle, see that his lifestock is being attacked by dogs, the statute allows me to stop and kill the dogs. Course there are other laws that might prevent this but 67-14 says its legal.

A few years ago we where looking at a parcel of land that had been a farm. The land had been in the seller family since at least 1900 or so. He was and still smelled like a chicken farmer. Back on the wood line he had a pile of dead chickens. He told us that the farmers would put the dead chickens out like that and let nature take its course. Now that would boost the feral dog population so every once in a while when there got to be to many dogs running loose the farmers would get togather and shoot the dogs.

Later,
Dan

 

[shvl73]

We're transplants from a small city ourselves, we have a neighbor who is a bit of a knucklehead who raises hunting dogs. The breed name escapes me at the moment, but he lets them run loose & they were coming over occasionally & have chased the chickens (I'm surprised we still have them all). I saw them over the other day & gave them a subtle reminder they don't belong with my pellet gun. We hope to build a barn next year & bring her horse home. If I see the dogs chasing the horse or killing a chicken, I'll inform the neighbor he has one option, restrain them or lose them. I can't say for sure I would shoot them, I definitely wouldn't want to, maybe bring them to the pound & let him pay to get them back.