Snowblower dealers in MA?

leonz · Feb 8, 2011

149owner said:
How does a Puma compare to the Kubota rear mount?

The only available information I can obtain is the cutting width on the Kubota rear mount which is 51 inches.

Which Pronovost PUMA?

Puma 48

Recommended horsepower rating 16-25
48 inch cutting width
24.5 inch cutting height
20 inch impeller diameter
depth of drum 6"
No. of blades (impeller) 4
shaft diameter (impeller) 1"
impeller R.P.M. 540
diameter of auger 16"
chain size 50
hitch category 1
P.T.O. driveline no. 2
adjustable skid shoes-standard
hydraulic rotation-standard
weight 355 pounds

Puma 54
recommended horsepower 16-25
cutting width 54 inches
cutting hieght 24.5 inches
impeller diamter 20"
depth of drum 6"
no. of blades (impeller) 4
shaft diameter (impeller) 1"
impeller R.P.M., 540
diameter of auger 16"
chain size 50
hitch category 1
P.T.O., drive no. 2
adjustable skid shoes-standard
hydraulic rotation-standard
wieght 362 pounds

Puma 64
recommended horse power 18-25
cutting width 64 inches
cutting hieght 24.5 inches
impeller diameter 20"
depth of drum 6"
no.of blades (impeller)
impeller R.P.M. 540
diamtere of auger 16"
chain size 50
hitch category 1
P.T.O., drive line no. 2
adjustable skid shoes-standard
hydraulic rotation kit-standard
wieght 382 pounds

Puma 72

horsepower recommended 20-35
cutting width 72 inches
cutting hieght 26.5 inches
impeller diameter 22 inches
depth of drum 7 inches
no. of blades (impeller) 4
shaft diameter (impeller) 1.25 inches
impeller R.P.M., 540
diamter of auger 16 inches
chain size 50
hitch category 1
P.T.O., driveline no. 4
adjustable skid shoes-standard
hydraulic rotation-standard
wieght 430 pounds

The first Pronovost group 1 model for your tractor size wieghs 550 pounds, 54 inches wide and 575 pounds, the second is 62 inches wide, both of them have 22 inch diameter drums and the impeller drum depth is 9 inches deep.

there are lot of options available for the Group 1 units etc.

TGReaper · Feb 8, 2011

I would talk to Ken Sweet about the Buhler/Allied rear mount if I were you,he is quite knowledgeable and the Buhler /Allied/Farm King equipment is well built and well designed.
According to my owners manual my BX 2200 is rated at 16.7 PTO hp. and I have run this winter with my 60" Allied and have had no problems.( 1 auger shear pin) I also built an electric chute turning system.

Dan

leonz · Feb 8, 2011

I suggested he talk to Ken Sweet as he is
a sponsor of the forum in good standing in
my previous post as well.

Has the wife been running the BX and relieving you of snow blower duty Dan?

harddock · Feb 9, 2011

Swamp Yankee, Check out Erskine Rear PTO driven front mounted snowblowers. They have a 54" 60" 72' 80" But they are $$$$

149owner · Feb 9, 2011

Well, after reading TG's post I decided to look at my operator's manual and it confirmed the 16.7 HP (estimated). I got the 14.5 HP rating off of the Kubota website. Ken Sweet was kind enough to send me a private mesage about the Farm King. I found a Puma 54" in state. It seems the non-commercial snowblowers are all priced about the same within $300-$400 (Puma, Farm King, Kubota, Bervac, etc) and as Ductape said a few are made by the same company. Leonz said some of them have problems with flexing. Since the Puma 54 weighs about 200# less then the Pronovost P-540, I would say it isn't made with the plate steel in places to prevent flexing. For those of you that have been able to actually look at them for comparison, do you have a compelling reason why you chose one over the others? Another question I have is do any of them non-marring skid shoes available or do they all leave marks on an asphalt driveway?
TG- have you had problems due to moisture with your electric chute rotator and have you upgraded to an alternator? Thanks to all for your replies and sorry I have so many questions.

The Deerslayer · Feb 9, 2011

Hey guys...my first post, just joined today. Been learning much from those who have posted here. Need some help deciding on a rear mount snowblower for my Kubota L2250. Any and all insight is welcome. Currently looking at buying a new Farm King 60 inch for around 2k and would have to travel aways to pick it up. I also am looking at a used (3 year old) Pronovost Puma-64 for about 1k which is a little closer to go and check out. The PTO shaft was just replaced, and from the pics, it seems to be showing normal wear. How do these compare quality-wise? Any additional info/thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance.

TGReaper · Feb 9, 2011

149 owner

First question: I have had no problems with my chute control. The system that I used is very simple(read cheap) and is made with components that are built for a hostile environment.
2nd:The power draw is light enough that any alternator upgrades are not required.
If you would like a picture run down of the chute control I can post.

Dan
Leonz: She has been busy tormenting people that do not believe in her political views much too involved to blow snow.

The Deerslayer · Feb 10, 2011

I'm kinda new to this, so if you think I should post my previous question in another area, please let me know. I was hoping to get some guidance soon as I will need to make a decision on the Puma vs. Farm King later today of early tomorrow. Thanks!!!
PS- Any idea what a Puma 64 would go for new?

leonz · Feb 10, 2011

149owner said:
Well, after reading TG's post I decided to look at my operator's manual and it confirmed the 16.7 HP (estimated). I got the 14.5 HP rating off of the Kubota website. Ken Sweet was kind enough to send me a private mesage about the Farm King. I found a Puma 54" in state. It seems the non-commercial snowblowers are all priced about the same within $300-$400 (Puma, Farm King, Kubota, Bervac, etc) and as Ductape said a few are made by the same company. Leonz said some of them have problems with flexing. Since the Puma 54 weighs about 200# less then the Pronovost P-540, I would say it isn't made with the plate steel in places to prevent flexing. For those of you that have been able to actually look at them for comparison, do you have a compelling reason why you chose one over the others? Another question I have is do any of them non-marring skid shoes available or do they all leave marks on an asphalt driveway?
TG- have you had problems due to moisture with your electric chute rotator and have you upgraded to an alternator? Thanks to all for your replies and sorry I have so many questions.

The RAD folks make many of the snow throwers for the majors JD, NH, Kubota, etc.

All of the Pumas and Pronovost models
have plate steel in the construction
of these snow throwers so flexing is
a zero issue with them.

Tudor and Jones and Pronovost will
have a few of them at the winter farm show
in syracuse at the state fair grounds shortly.

From what I remember of my conversation with the
the Pronovost sales representative 2 years ago they
wanted to offer a blower that was slightly less wieght
and money than the group 1 units for the consumer,
the quality is still top end though, so thats not an issue.

Their snow throwers are heavy for a reason;
the side walls for the Pronovost Lynx, Puma, group 1, snow throwers are heavy because of the snows in canada and thier snow conditions.

The heavier a blower is the stronger the frame build;

You have to keep in mind that the snow caster is reversing into a very heavy snow mass
and it does not care how strong the steel is and its mass is greater in weight than the snow blower and unless the auger and impeller are working to remove it the travel speed of the tractor will continue to place pressure on every square inch of steel that is being pressed against by the snow fall.

leonz · Feb 10, 2011

TGReaper said:
149 owner

First question: I have had no problems with my chute control. The system that I used is very simple(read cheap) and is made with components that are built for a hostile environment.
2nd:The power draw is light enough that any alternator upgrades are not required.
If you would like a picture run down of the chute control I can post.

Dan
Leonz: She has been busy tormenting people that do not believe in her political views much too involved to blow snow.

OMG!!!!!, is she a Souverainiste Du Quebec or a Torrey?????

149owner · Feb 11, 2011

Thanks leonz. It looks like the Puma is at the top of my list now!

SwampYankee68 · Feb 12, 2011

harddock said:
Swamp Yankee, Check out Erskine Rear PTO driven front mounted snowblowers. They have a 54" 60" 72' 80" But they are $$$$

I will - and thanks for all the posts fellas. I think I'll start by talking to the staff at Khan Tractor in Franklin and see what they recommend for the BX24.

Firefighter Kubota · Feb 12, 2011

How about an ECONAR? for a 54" for $1595

vs a 51" meteor for only $950....

I have not been to see them..both about 2 yrs old with light use....

Thanks...

Firefighter Kubota · Feb 13, 2011

bump....

149owner · Feb 14, 2011

First question: I have had no problems with my chute control. The system that I used is very simple(read cheap) and is made with components that are built for a hostile environment.
TGReaper- I'd like more info about what you used, where can it be purchased and how you attached it. Thanks

TGReaper · Feb 14, 2011

TGReaper- I'd like more info about what you used,

149 Owner:
The easiest way for me to respond to your question is to post some pic's,if you have further questions after you look at them just ask.

Dan
This is a standard ATV winch available at Princess Auto/Harbour Frt.etc.
$45to$75

Reg · Feb 15, 2011

149owner said:
Has anyone found and dealt with a 3ph snowblower dealer in MA that sells other the Kubota units? The closest Ber-vac dealer I found was in Maine and Pronovost was in NY or PA!. The 52" Ber-vac is $2600 and the Kubota is $2500. How do these compare to each other? The Ber-vac says recommended hp as 20-35 and their Blizzard 54" model says 16-35 hp but the BX2200's 3ph is rated at 14.5hp. It seems a lot of you are using these on a BX so should I be concerned with the hp ratings? Do these snowblowers work well with the slop we just got in MA or would I still have to clean up with a blade? Thanks.
Has anyone had luck using 12V actuators for chute rotation and deflector controls?

Where in Mass ?
If you are anywhere near to Ft Devens try Toreku Tractors on 2A in Ayer.
Just off the Ayer rotary, on the Littleton side (east).

As of TODAY they have Ber-vac listed.

Their distributor is Woodhouse, so if Ayer is too far you could ask Woodhouse for a closer dealer.

149owner · Feb 15, 2011

That's a pretty slick setup you've got TGReaper! I see Harbor Freight has a similar 2K unit on sale for $70 but with a 20% off coupon it's only $64. It looks like you can spin the chute 360 degrees so you must have to keep a close eye on it when rotating it so you don't get a faceful of snow.

WayneB · Feb 15, 2011

149owner said:
That's a pretty slick setup you've got TGReaper! I see Harbor Freight has a similar 2K unit on sale for $70 but with a 20% off coupon it's only $64. It looks like you can spin the chute 360 degrees so you must have to keep a close eye on it when rotating it so you don't get a faceful of snow.

And I just picked up one at HF with wireless remote for 59.99. Actually it was two weeks ago. Not sure if they have sold them all off or not.