Smooth loader bucket vs stump

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I wrestled with this stump for about a 90 minutes. Half of that was with pick and shovel to see what was holding it in. I learned that I need to dig much deeper than I thought. Never had a stump with a tap root like this one before.
 

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time for a tooth bar, man!
 
   / Smooth loader bucket vs stump #3  
Bought myself a stump bucket ..

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   / Smooth loader bucket vs stump #4  
That looks like a maple stump. A hickory has a Way bigger tap root. I like the FOPS in your tractor.
 
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I have always been a fan of tooth bars and am having one made for this tractor as I write. However, I was surprised that I noticed no deficiency in digging power without the tooth bar. Digging was really easy even in clay! Now I doo have a small bucket (65"). I could push the bucked right under the surface roots and it wouldn't stop until it hit the tap root. What the tooth bar will really help with is reinforcing that front bucket edge! (and all the other useful things those little fingers can do!) I bowed the bucket edge a little. loader is really strong. I asked my dealer to check that hydraulic pressure for the main system and loader were at the max allowable spec before delivery. I'm sure they are and maybe a little more because the loader will lift the rear of the tractor with me 250 pounds, FOPS 200 pounds, Rear blade 500 pounds, and 1000 pounds of fill in read tires! All together the rear must be over 4000 pounds and can still get it off the ground (maybe why I bowed the bucket).

I've been looking at stump buckets for a while and would love to have one. I like the really long ones that you can use basically as a pry bar on the loader (I realize the deficiencies of the extra length and thing the benefits outweigh them if you understand the physics)
 
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That looks like a maple stump. A hickory has a Way bigger tap root. I like the FOPS in your tractor.

No idea what kind of stump so I'll take your word for it. I do love having a FOPS in the woods!
 
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My tractor will lift the back up with the same kind of weight. The backhoe and subframe weigh almost 3,000 pounds. The fluid in the rear tires weighs 900 pounds. 4,000 pounds of ballast holds the rear down good, but the loaded tires and box blade isn't enough. How much is the loader on your tractor rated to lift?
 
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KK how are these for digging shallow trenches if you've tried that?

I've done "some" digging with the bucket. It worked well where I was digging. I'd say my biggest limitation is needing more front-end weight to really get this thing shoved into hard/rocky ground. I suspect that problem affects all kinds of buckets.

Bear in mind, the bucket is wider in the rear than the front - so your trench will show that.
 

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