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That reminds me of my brother and his pal, it must be 35 years ago, trying to tow start a moped by pulling it behind the tractor in the field. That Zündapp didnt quite felt like it, so the friend pulled a U turn at the end of the field. My brother didnt squeeze the clutch, so was pulled over, and i was yelling to warn him that my brother was stuck with his leg under the moped, being dragged along.. 🙈🤣
 
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With two ways to have a higher volume, a larger tire or higher inflation pressure, it largely explains the single vs. dual situation.
Off road, you dont want a higher inflation pressure: more air pressure means less bellying out, so a smaller contact patch and more contact pressure. Farmers are easily fooled by self propelled manure tankers on big 1050/50R32 tires: with tires that big, soil pressure must be good. But in reality with 65 ton on 3 axles, they need to run 2 bar (or 30 PSI) in order to not blow their tires worth 7000 dollar a piece. The issue with tires is, that soil pressure under a tire, is halved at a depth that is half of the tires width.
So all these wide tires inflated too hard, do, is put compaction problems a lot deeper into the subsoil.. Wilhelm Sohne already documented it in 1953 when surplus army tires from WW2 were gradually replaced by purposed farm tires.

That the tire's profile also plays a role is something I've never heard mentioned by anyone in the general public.
You mean at highway speeds? I guess a passenger car tire gets a lot hotter at 100mph when you covered it with tractor lugs... the rubber gets a lot more kneeded with an irregular thread pattern, causing heat buildup from internal friction... Although i dont know any examples of two tires with the same carcass but a different lug...

PS. I hope you don't mind being grouped with the general public here.
Avoidance of generalisations makes it impossible to communicate characteristics of countries, cultures, or groups (such as the "general public", Japanese culture, or motorgangs) so i will be the last person to make an issue about generalisations as a means of description... 😉👌
 
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You mean at highway speeds? I guess a passenger car tire gets a lot hotter at 100mph when you covered it with tractor lugs... the rubber gets a lot more kneeded with an irregular thread pattern, causing heat buildup from internal friction... Although i dont know any examples of two tires with the same carcass but a different lug...
No, I didn't mean at speed, but the aspect ratio can make a big difference when it comes to a tire's flotation abilities. More sidewall height is rarely a bad thing when off the pavement, allowing for a larger contact patch.

Plus it tends to create more volume, which is also a very good thing since that allows running lower inflation pressures.

There are quite a few tires built on the same carcass with two or three different tread patterns, from highway to mud usage, by the way.
 
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There are quite a few tires built on the same carcass with two or three different tread patterns, from highway to mud usage, by the way.
In North America perhaps, where pickup truck tires go over the counter by the truckload. The guys driving a Ram in Europe stick to highway tires, they arent common so you pay the premium here... with mud lugs, they wear even faster, meaning more cents per mile on tires...
 
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It's always funny seeing those 1/2 ton Ram pickups on the Autobahn. It's been years since I was working in Germany, but I'd usually see a couple per week, looking so out of place driving amongst the Smart cars and Fiat 500 clown cars. 😛
 
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It's always funny seeing those 1/2 ton Ram pickups on the Autobahn. It's been years since I was working in Germany, but I'd usually see a couple per week, looking so out of place driving amongst the Smart cars and Fiat 500 clown cars. 😛
or a suburban or explorer driving next to a fiat panda
 
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or a suburban or explorer driving next to a fiat panda
A friend at work drove a Fiat 500, and the thing had something like 0.9 liters displacement. I used to tease him that my car also had almost 0.9 liters displacement... per cylinder. :D

Even his 10-12 year old daughters made fun of him, in fact they're the ones who started calling it the "clown car". But I'll admit, it was fun to tool around town in that stupid little thing, probably a great car for tight streets in Italy.
 
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It's always funny seeing those 1/2 ton Ram pickups on the Autobahn. It's been years since I was working in Germany, but I'd usually see a couple per week, looking so out of place driving amongst the Smart cars and Fiat 500 clown cars. 😛
The municipal services in the city i worked, gave their employees a Renault Twizzy 10 years ago. Next to him at the traffic lights, i looked him dead in the eyes with a look on my face that said "are you serious ?" He instantly stopped looking around and stared into the traffic light. I grinned and thought "yup, this guy is embarrassed " 🤣🤣

This is really the clownest vehicle of all, worse than the mutt van from Dumb & Dumber 😄


Smarts are disposable too, made to last less than 100.000 km. Fiat 500 lasts like any other car, but how it handles i dont know: but a VW Polo drives surprisingly well, even at Autobahn speeds. It is placed below the Golf (or Rabbit).but surpasses the 3rd gen Golf in weight and size and handling.

 
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The municipal services in the city i worked, gave their employees a Renault Twizzy 10 years ago. Next to him at the traffic lights, i looked him dead in the eyes with a look on my face that said "are you serious ?" He instantly stopped looking around and stared into the traffic light. I grinned and thought "yup, this guy is embarrassed " 🤣🤣

This is really the clownest vehicle of all, worse than the mutt van from Dumb & Dumber 😄


Smarts are disposable too, made to last less than 100.000 km. Fiat 500 lasts like any other car, but how it handles i dont know: but a VW Polo drives surprisingly well, even at Autobahn speeds. It is placed below the Golf (or Rabbit).but surpasses the 3rd gen Golf in weight and size and handling.

I always joked with my friends in Europe that those cars were designed to drive on sidewalks.
But in a city setting they do make sense, but once on a highway, not so much.

We used to see a lot of Fiats here, but people took them on the highways and they wore out fast.
I drove and old Fiat in Rome, it was fun, even without sync on the gears.
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It looks like they are towing the guy, the bike just happens to be underneath him.

I didn't need the second picture to see it.
Maybe that's a bungie cord and not a tow strap. He gets launched off the bike and tries to make it through the hole in the back window??? Wins the dunce cap, for today.
 
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I always joked with my friends in Europe that those cars were designed to drive on sidewalks.

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I've seen them drive on sidewalks in Italy, designed for it or not.

Had five or six of those pictured (real) 500s, and they could be made to handle very well simply by lowering them.

One got its 18-1/2 hp engine changed to a 40 hp Abarth version...that was a fun car. Beat a V8 Chevelle from stop light to stop light a few times with that one.
 
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One got its 18-1/2 hp engine changed to a 40 hp Abarth version...that was a fun car. Beat a V8 Chevelle from stop light to stop light a few times with that one.
The difference between the 500 Abarth and the V8 Chevelle is that only the former is affected by how recently you've eaten or gone to the bathroom. 😛

I remember taking my wife's rather quick (for the time) Audi A3 to work one day, and then piling three buddies into it to head to lunch. Damn, that thing was slow with 800 lb. of middle-aged man loaded into it. We increased the gross weight by probably 40%!
 
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I've seen them drive on sidewalks in Italy, designed for it or not.

Had five or six of those pictured (real) 500s, and they could be made to handle very well simply by lowering them.

One got its 18-1/2 hp engine changed to a 40 hp Abarth version...that was a fun car. Beat a V8 Chevelle from stop light to stop light a few times with that one.
The red one was the one I drove through Rome.
Always fun being in a tiny car in traffic that seems to flow by general agreement rather than any rules.
 
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Yup, adding lightness does wonders for performance, including handling.

This scene from "the Italian job" is bulls hit, you can add springs to a Mini but it will bend its suspension arms when driving like that wilst fully loaded with gold bars (gold is about twice as dense as steel so they are loading them up with about a ton of gold each)
 
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This scene from "the Italian job" is bulls hit, you can add springs to a Mini but it will bend its suspension arms when driving like that wilst fully loaded with gold bars (gold is about twice as dense as steel so they are loading them up with about a ton of gold each)
Those "minis" are bloated, almost 1500kg in such a small car, pathetic.
 
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Always fun being in a tiny car in traffic that seems to flow by general agreement rather than any rules.
Then there's the traffic in India. No rules.

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And a feature I'll bet is a holdover from when the Brits ruled India: Anything larger and heavier in heavy traffic owns the road. So his horn means get out of the way or die, non negotiable.
 
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This scene from "the Italian job" is bulls hit, you can add springs to a Mini but it will bend its suspension arms when driving like that wilst fully loaded with gold bars (gold is about twice as dense as steel so they are loading them up with about a ton of gold each)
Worse yet is the scene from Gold Finger.
One of the bad guys accepts his $1 million in gold.
Its loaded in a Lincoln (over 5,000lbs) of the time with a million in gold bullion ($35/oz) which is at least another 1800Lbs.
When the bad guy is killed the car and gold are all crushed into 1 cube and loaded onto a Ford Ranchero.
Odd Job is then seen driving back to Gold Fingers lair with a conservatively rated load of 6,800lbs in the back of the Ranchero and the suspension hasn't lowered an inch.
I'm guessing the load rating of the Ranchero to be 600-700lbs max.
 

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