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[deezler]

always amazing when people have zero concept of weight capacity. Probably an easy 2000-3000 lbs above the rear axle payload rating.

 

[RjCorazza]

always amazing when people have zero concept of weight capacity. Probably an easy 2000-3000 lbs above the rear axle payload rating.

You're right on the money! I was curious about what the log could weigh, and the internet says around 4500 lbs.

 

[WinterDeere]

always amazing when people have zero concept of weight capacity. Probably an easy 2000-3000 lbs above the rear axle payload rating.

Looks like ash, the various species of which hover around 50 lb/ft3 when fresh-cut. If we assume the log is roughly 10 feet long x 30" diameter, that log would weigh nearly 2500 lb.

I was thinking a lot about rear axle capacity last week, when I had to pick up 1200 lb. of seed and fertilizer. I really didn't want to hook up my tandem axle tractor, as it has solid sides and fork-lifting things in and out of it is a huge pita (has to be done with slings). My truck has a payload rating around 1480 lb., but I weigh 170 lb. and I had a nearly-full tank of gas (35 gallons). Some quick math shows I was probably right at max payload without me in the truck, but that 170 lb. discrepancy is only 2% of GVWR.

I normally never overload a vehicle, but in this case I placed the material as far forward in the bed as the crew cab configuration allows, and drove slow the five or ten miles to home. I figured at just 102% of GVWR, I'm probably within the error of measurement of any scale that'd be used to weigh the vehicle, and way within whatever safety margins were used in engineering it.

 

[WinterDeere]

You're right on the money! I was curious about what the log could weigh, and the internet says around 4500 lbs.

Doh... we posted at the same time!

As to 4500 lb.? Only if it's oak. 63 lb./ft3 when fresh cut.

I haul more tons and cubic feet of oak than anyone you'll ever meet, who doesn't do it for a living. But it looks like ash to me, much lighter.

 

[BigBlue1]

I looked at Amazon, and all they’ve got is piss, poor descriptions, that’s what I hate about Amazon off brand crap that gives terrible descriptions, you never know if it’s any good, and I hate returning crap

I'd do research in general on-line (not just looking on Amazon) to find out what systems have good reviews and be able to compare features. You still have to be careful because there are a lot of sites out there that create 'reviews' or 'recommendations' that are really just hawking a product, but if you go to a reputable 3rd party (say PC Magazine or Tom's Hardware (using tech sites as example)) then I usually place a decent amount of faith in the reviews.

 

[WinterDeere]

Tom’s, cNet, Crutchfield… lots of sources better than Amazon reviews from customers who have no business reviewing even the box the thing arrived in.

 

[California]

Tom’s, cNet, Crutchfield… lots of sources better than Amazon reviews from customers who have no business reviewing even the box the thing arrived in.

I tried to review a cheap Amazon critter camera ('security camera') that was near useless. But instead of opening the review screen, I was halted with 'Reviewing suspended due to unusual activity'.

In two weeks I had only two recordings, people walking nearby. A previous Arlo camera there had showed deer, foxes and occasionally a coyote, nearly every night and sometimes daytime.

A major activity right in front of this camera, a tractor towing a huge sprayer right past the camera, multiple times, before dawn with glaring headlights and the cloud of spray illuminated by work lights, never triggered the camera. Another camera (Wyze) caught that activity from 50 ft away in the corner of its image.

I went back and re-posted the forbidden review a month later. I see now that this second attempt finally went live.

Moral of the story - unfavorable Amazon reviews can get censored.

 

[WinterDeere]

This is where places like Crutchfield and eTrailer are a great treasure, and why I try to buy from them when their pricing and shipping is anywhere near what I can get elsewhere. There are so many useful tech reviews, videos, and guides from guys who spend all day everyday dealing with this equipment, they really create a great value for anyone who only has to shop this stuff occasionally.

Of course, when their price turns out to be 50% more than an Amazon marketplace seller, it's a no go. But I'm usually happy to spend 10%, or even occasionally 20% more on cheaper items, for the guidance they offer.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Of course, when their price turns out to be 50% more than an Amazon marketplace seller, it's a no go. But I'm usually happy to spend 10%, or even occasionally 20% more on cheaper items, for the guidance they offer.

I don't put much trust in reviews. I often look for items at places like eTrailer, then once having decided what to get/what exists, buy it at a better price from somewhere else.

 

[LittleBittyBigJohn]

Caught this one while out at lunch today. That trailer is riding a little low in the front.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Meh. Those little 1/2-tons are great for towing...and get good mileage.

 

[fidowanttobe]

I have never considered an add-on camera, my truck is 10 years old and they were only coming in the high-end trucks back then.
I suppose you can find them on Amazon?

I have 2 rear view cameras from Rexing. Very very pleased with them. $175 ish.

 

[Jstpssng]

Looks like ash

I thought it was a pine. Either way, it was too big for that truck.

 

[Grumpycat]

always amazing when people have zero concept of weight capacity. Probably an easy 2000-3000 lbs above the rear axle payload rating.

Pretty sure that is a racist concept in this day and age!

 

[WinterDeere]

Caught this one while out at lunch today. That trailer is riding a little low in the front.
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Dry topsoil is around 1 ton per yard, up to a ton and half per yard when wet. I'd guess there's 4 yards in that trailer, assuming it levels off at 12' x 6' x 1.5', so at least 8000 lb. payload, on what appears to be a 10k trailer... as you don't see many 7k lb. dump trailers.

Soil appears relatively dry, so why is the trailer squatted so hard, with the tires almost rubbing the fenders?

As to the truck, 10k gross trailer (payload + curb) means 1000 - 1500 lb. tongue weight, on a truck probably rated 1000 lb. max tongue, before length of hitch itself. And I suspect they recommend WDH on anything over 700 lb. tongue weight.

 

[masscity]

I wish I had pictures, but this was about 1978. I had a 1975 Datsun 2wd, 7.5 ft bed. I stopped to get some topsoil.

Told the Endloader operator to give me a yard of topsoil. He asked me if I'm sure if you want that much, I said humor me.

He dumped it in the little pickup, got out of the Endloader and shakes his head and said I don't believe it.

He said I just put a yard and a quarter of wet topsoil in there and nothing happened. It did go down a few inches, not much.

He said if that was a Chev, Ford or a Dodge the bumper would be on the ground.

This was before 1983 when Chev, Ford and Dodge went to the 5/8ths ton.

In 1999 I went from a 1980 Datsun 4x4 long bed to a 1997 Dodge 2500 diesel, 4x4 ext cab, long bed. Quite a change.

 

[KennyG]

I had a 1968 Datsun that I hauled 2200 lbs of crushed rock in. It survived but it was bad judgement.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

I've been driving crew cabs since before they were popular and became common.

It wasn't that I needed the seating (actually removed the rear seat in most of them) but because it didn't take me long to realize how helpful the longer wheelbase and extra weight is.

Was only half joking when telling people that I paid my life insurance at the pump.
Not that long and heavy tow vehicles are fool proof, but it takes more of a fool to screw up with one.

Currently I have two crew cabs. One of them has quite a bit more power than the other, but I will not tow with it. If you guessed that the one I won't tow with is a 1/2-ton, you're correct.

 

[flyerdan]

The early to mid 70's Datsuns had about a 5/8" flat bar at the bottom of the spring pack that kept it from bottoming out. I've still got a trailer made from a '75 standard bed.

 

[dstig1]

I was thinking a lot about rear axle capacity last week, when I had to pick up 1200 lb. of seed and fertilizer. I really didn't want to hook up my tandem axle tractor, as it has solid sides and fork-lifting things in and out of it is a huge pita (has to be done with slings). My truck has a payload rating around 1480 lb., but I weigh 170 lb. and I had a nearly-full tank of gas (35 gallons). Some quick math shows I was probably right at max payload without me in the truck, but that 170 lb. discrepancy is only 2% of GVWR.

I normally never overload a vehicle, but in this case I placed the material as far forward in the bed as the crew cab configuration allows, and drove slow the five or ten miles to home. I figured at just 102% of GVWR, I'm probably within the error of measurement of any scale that'd be used to weigh the vehicle, and way within whatever safety margins were used in engineering it.

Wow. Talk about conservative... You were at zero risk. When I was clearing my lot, I was working with a friend to block, haul and split the oak firewood (we only hauled the oak as valuable, junk trees just got burned in piles). I had my F250 with 8' bed and I had added ~18" sides to protect the rear window and add a bit more capacity. My friend and I had divided up the work so I would go to the land, block up oak into 16" length, then load the rounds in my truck and drive to his place and unload, where we had the splitter setup and he would split and stack.

I would fill the truck up but certainly not 100% to the rim. Never seemed to sag all that much. One day I decided to go to the scales out of curiosity. With a rated payload of somewhere around 1800-1900 lbs, I was hauling over 4000 lbs at a time. I cut back a bit after finding that out but frankly you could not tell that it was causing any issues at all. I made a couple dozen of those runs that summer.