Ruggerini oil filter:Discontinued?

[Shadow99]

Been searching high & low for a replacement oil filter for my Pasquali 993 with a 30hp Ruggerini diesel. Found a Lombardini number on the filter, but not a cross-over number matching another brand. I'm at the point now of making a by-pass adapter to fit the housing, so I can run a remote-filter.
Unfortunatly the putts who installed the filter, (where I bought it used last yr), over-tightened it , and it doesn't want to come off. Twisted the 13mm hex stud at the top, which started to deform the can, tried grabbing the base of the filter, but no room to turn it with oil-feed for fuel-govenor line there .
Does anybody know what the size/pitch of the thread is on the stud on the oil-filter base is? Doesn't seem to show that spec anywhere in the overhaul manual.

Thanks,

Rick

 

[284 International]

According to Baldwin filters, the filter (B7290) uses 3/4-16 threads on the filter. You can order these through Napa, at least around here. It uses the same part number as my 997. I haven't yet had to order one, but the girl over the phone when I checked said it was no problem to get their replacement filter, 1034, if they didn't have one one stock. I have not verified either of these part numbers to fit, but both the Baldwin and Napa websites came up with those parts to fit the Ruggerini engine, and they cross-reference.

Having said that, Tom at Italiantractors.com says filters aren't readily available in North America. Based on my interactions with him and his reputation, I wouldn't disagree. However, he does have them available, and they are certain to fit. He also warns that the oil filter base on the larger size Ruggerini engine from yours is prone to breaking. I do not know if it is the same as yours, but the filter numbers are the same. He says he is working on a conversion for that engine.

Can you drill a set of holes in the filter, jam a screwdriver in them, and double up with a wrench and the screwdriver to hopefully provide enough torque to get it off?

 

[Shadow99]

I was trying to avoid destroying the filter.
I had looked at Baldwin filters, but it's the I.D. thread that I was concerned with, 3/4"-16 thread, on an oil filter that is only 1.875" in diameter? The pictures of the Baldwin B7290, is fat & stubby, my filter is long & skinny at 1.875" dia by 4 3/4" long. I saw a embossed stamp of M14 on the bottom of another used oil-filter that, (the guy) had when I got my machine. Can't see the Italian's using "inch-spec threads" on the machine just for the oil filter.
I will most likely have to order one from Mr. Branch at Italian Tractors, until I complete fabricating my remote-adapter.

Rick

 

[Barry 1]

There are 2 filters on Ebay under "175.11" for ruggerini -do they look like them? They have a hex on the end,but don't say what they fit, $42.50ea

 

[Shadow99]

They do look vary simular to the filter that's on my machine now, but $42.50 each?
Wow, do they last forever? Gold-plated? That's quite a bit of money for a disposable spin-on filter with not alot of surface-area!
Thanks anyway Barry!

Rick

 

[Barry 1]

Anything ruggerini must be Gold-plated!!! I priced some parts for my MD151 and went into shock.I think Kohler owns them now,and haven't had time to see if their parts are any cheaper,probably even higher!

 

[284 International]

I'm interested to see what you do for an adapter. The Italian tractors are kind of quirky, but I like mine anyway. The filter situation is kind of annoying. My filter is the same as yours, and if the Baldwin/Napa specifications are true, those won't fit. My 997 came with a spare filter, so I haven't had to find one yet.

All of my Yanmar, Kubota, Mitsubishi and Satoh tractors use inch-specification filters according to Baldwin/Napa, not that it means anything.


My tractor has enough room that I could get a strap wrench around the filter body, which should work.

 

[Shadow99]

Yeah, that's my next plan of attack to remove it with out damaging it further. Got the remote-adapter drawn up, 2" 7075-T6 Aluminum stock, now just need to machine it up.
Idea so far is a 2 piece unit, base plate with kidney slots & sealed center passage (designed 2 base plates, 1st has threaded center M14x2.0 2nd has thru hole & will use a stepped-nut), upper-body has IN & OUT ports bolted to base-plate with (6) M4x35mm socket head cap screws and use SAE-8 ports, and O-rings to seal upper to lower plates.
Here's a few pics of the oil-filter on my 993, the red 3/4" heater hose on the govenor line protects the line from chafing (notice it's 1/2 the diameter of the oil-filter itself!)

Rick

 

[CliffordK]

Is it possible that the bolt on top twists independent of the can? I'd still try backing off the bolt a little more.

Searching on the internet, and I seem to see a Kohler Filter, ED0021751850S, that may match for about $33. Unfortunately none of the websites seem to have good photos.

What you need is my FIAT reusable oil filter... just clean and reinstall.

 

[Barry 1]

Still raining!! So I looked untill I found a picture of a "Clean DO315" filter that is supposed to cross to the Ruggerini 175.11 and the dimentions are D-48mm(1.89) x H- 118mm(4.645) x M14x1.5 threads, but nobody has any for sale.

 

[CliffordK]

I was browsing on E-Bay and found this.

Filtro Olio Esterno Ruggerini RD 900 Codice 2414 Originale | eBay

Not necessarily what you're looking for, but if you are intent on making a "remote" filter, you may look at different options to attach it to your tractor, as it is quite possible that both the filter, and the mount are easily removable. In which case, building the attachment for your remote might be much easier than you thought.

This looks like your filter...
Perhaps you could buy all 3 of them that the seller lists. Sometimes you can get good international shipping rates. Sometimes it is quick to ship from overseas, sometimes it isn't.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/filtro-olio...osa-/150776652975?hash=item231afd24af&vxp=mtr

 

[Barry 1]

Clifford-how did you find that stuff?? Use a foreign language?? Ebay's search engine needs a rebuild!

 

[CliffordK]

Ahhh.... yes...
What isn't on my profile is that I also own a 1965 Fiat 500.

In E-Bay, to the right of the Search is an Advanced button.

It gives you a whole bunch more options.

About two thirds the way down, there is an option, "Location".
You have to hit the button "Only show items from"
I usually select "Located In".

There used to be an option "Any Country", but that is now gone. I went ahead and selected "Located In Italy".

In this case, one gets the same results selecting "Available To USA", although there may be some items that are only available to Italy, or Europe, in which case one should contact the seller before bidding.

Now, it is helpful to know a little bit of the target language. So I basically searched for "Ruggerini Filtro Olio".
If you are unfamiliar with the language, Google Translate can be quite helpful.

For Fiat parts, I've also had very good luck with Germany, as well as Great Britain (as long as you don't mind everything being backwards).

 

[Barry 1]

Thanks,that just opened up a whole new world to me!

 

[Shadow99]

Thanks Barry! That thread size & pitch are just what I've been looking for!
Now I gotta get to machining it up, later tonite, 100+ out in the shop today, here in Western Massachusetts.
Thanks Again!

Rick

 

[CliffordK]

As mentioned, check to see if the mounting bracket removes.

It will likely be much easier to attach a different remote if you can just remove the whole bracket.

 

[Shadow99]

Hey Cliff,
I looked into removing the oil-filter assembly at the block, but have some concerns about removing the banjo fittings & having them leak after re-assembly. I've had that issue on the many Banjo-fittings they use all over the machine, filed them flat, re-heat & quench them, 50/50 shot they don't leak! Also I'd have to make a new gasket from scratch, not a real-difficult task, as long as I don't destroy the original one when disassembling the housing from the block, so I have something to trace/copy.
Started setting the machine up & hunt for tooling, last night. Can never find what I need, when I need it, darn shop-gremlins!

Rick

 

[284 International]

Have you finished the adapter yet?

 

[svcguy]

Hi Guys, I stock the Ruggerini filters at $22 each. A bit spendy for sure, but certainly less than Kohler. It would make sense to order when needing some other parts, because it would eat up the difference in mailing costs. I was wanting to make an adapter for the Honda civic filter, but ran into some size issues with loader machines. They certainly didn't leave much room to play with. It's easy to make a remote for it, but then hoses are another risk. We hope to offer something in the future, but in the mean time I have lots of the original spec filters if ever needed. All the best, Tom at Italiantractors.

 

[svcguy]

Forgot to mention that I have a lot of banjo washers coming. You can often find them at VW dealers too, they use them quite a bit for the fuel injection systems.