RimGuard - Yes or No?

[Henro]

<font color="blue">Rim guard is also heavier than calcium filled tires 1 gallon of ballast star which is what we use. [same product] is 10.3 pounds per gallon. </font>

I think, but don't know for sure, that "about the same" is probably more accurate than 'heavier."

The Goodyear link I pointed to above, specs 3.5 or 5 lb calcium per gallon. 5 lb per gallon give a 28% increase in weight over plain water. My calculations say that would be 10.66 lbs per gallon. Or about the same... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Now if water does not weigh 8.3 lbs per gallon my number would be proportionally wrong...The marketing people for the alternative product would certainly use the lower 3.5 lb per gallon, and that would make the original statement true...

So it all depends...

 

[spencer200]

I think you will find that these products are a couple pounds heavier than a calcium filled tire. I remember reading this some place I cant remember for sure what the reason was but ballast star or rim guard put more weight in the tire than just calcium and water.

 

[gone]

junkman sorry just got home, the reason is to keep frost heaves down to a min. and it keeps the reclaim from feezing solid. As a beifit it compacts like a rock. reclaim is nothing more than runing (Reclaimer a giant rototiller that grindes aspalt) and mixes it with the gravel under the aspalt useualy 8-10" deep, then regrade and repave. when the cacl truck arives we till in cacl at 6-8". The reclaimer we have is CMI 650,witch is 650 hp v 12 cat motor, drum has 300 carbide teeth at $4.50 a piece, they usualy last about 1500-2500 feet. of course that depends on rocks or leadge. man holes also do a number on them if you find a burried one,but the man hole cover is junk also. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[AndyMA]

Bill

Maybe you realize this, but the 3.5 to 5 # per gallon refers to how much you add. You could just as easily 4 or 6 # of the power. I have 1 tractor with calcium and 1 with RimGuard. The 2120 has calcium since 1987 does have some corrosion of the area around the valuve stems from minor leakage. The calcium does kill what ever it touches.

Andy

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> Maybe you realize this, but the 3.5 to 5 # per gallon refers to how much you add. You could just as easily 4 or 6 # of the power. </font>

Yes that makes sense. I had to use the lbs/gal that Goodyear used because they also gave % weight increase for them, and that made calculation of the weight/gallon possible... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[zuiko]

The alcohol in WW fluid is extremely diluted. There is only enough alcohol in it to stop it from freezing and make it more effective as a cleaner. You can also buy WW fluid without the methonal... some use isopropyl instead. Any WW fluid that isnt in a child resistant container cannot use methonal.

CaCl is not table salt, that is NaCl. Don't think it's particularly harmful but I would not want to eat any of it either.

 

[jas67]

OK, where can I buy it, to load myself?

 

[IslandTractor]

OK, where can I buy it, to load myself?

If you are referring to RimGuard you should check with a local tractor shop. Be prepared for sticker shock as prices for the beet juice have gone way up since this thread was started four years ago. I recall something between $3 and $4 per gallon about nine months ago.

Windshield washer fluid is also more than 2 bucks a gallon now.

CaCl is still cheap and still has the same disadvantages as always but remains a popular choice due to economics.

 

[Lasgambler]

I loaded my rear tires with Sierra anti-freeze and water. Sierra is supposed to be enviromentaly friendly. I live in and area that does not get hard freezes, so I only put 1 gal. of Sierra in each rear tire. I got the valves for filling at NAPA.

 

[Gravdigr]

I have been running antifreeze in the back tires of our loader since we got it in '88. In that time I have had tubes replaced or repaired 5 times and in all those times I may have lost a cup or 2 from leaks, an overheated radiator would spill more antifreeze. Of course if you are running tubeless a nice sidewall slice could be a problem but it's pretty hard to have a catastrophic failure with a tube tire. I would never run straight water just due to it freezing in my climate. And straight water in a tubeless is just begging for corrosion.

 

[xlr82v2]

I filled my tires with RimGuard myself... Cost $3.00 per gallon. My Mahindra took 35 gallons per tire, for a total of 70 gallons and $210.00, which is exactly what the local co/op quoted me to have them loaded with CaCl. So, I figured for the same money, and a little elbow grease, I'd do it myself with the good stuff.

The RimGuard website lists the product weighing between 10.7 and 11 lbs per gallon, which is about the same or maybe just a bit heavier than CaCl. If you go in the middle of that range and say it weighs 10.85 lbs/gallon, that gave me 759.5 lbs of ballast. $210/759.5= $0.276 per pound... that's pretty cheap ballast. You'd be hard pressed to find iron weights that cheap to hang on your tractor.

Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

 

[gerard]

I used my tractor since 1999 without loaded tires, then when I brought it in for the 800 hr service, I loaded them with rimguard for about $200. Now I kick myself for not doing it when I bought the tractor. The increased stability when doing loader work or on slopes is like having the tires glued to the ground. VERY big difference. Also superior to metal weights as far as performance because the weight is lower which lowers your center of gravity. I would not use calcium choride because the weights about the same but the ca cl is corrosive and you SHOULD use tubes. Just no reason to use it when rimguard is available. This should be a hands down decision - get er done!

 

[jas67]

Where can I find Rim Guard in Central PA (Annville, near Harrisburg).


I tried the following with no luck:
Messicks (E-town)
Keller Bros. Kubota (Myerstown)
BHM (Kiota Dealer)
Bamberger's (in Lebenon)
TSC
Several tire dealers that deal with ag tires.

 

[xlr82v2]

Best thing to do is call the number on the RimGuard website, and they will locate the dealer closest to you. That's how I had to do it, there aren't many dealers at all in my area.

 

[jas67]

I did just that. Here is what I got:


Martin's Tire and Allignment, in Narvon, PA, about 55 miles from me.
717-445-4993

Not yet a dealer, but is going to be, and currently buys from the above, and is only 25 miles from me:
Richland,pa
Lebenon Valley Implement Co.
717-866-7518
ask for Marlin