Right to repair, Why I don't want a new tractor.

[jstrick]

The stance that JD is taking on the "right to repair" debate is one of the main reasons I ended up buying a Kubota. The Kubota stance seems to be more in line with helping their customers as opposed to just sucking money out of them. I have a really simple tractor (a 1950 Farmall H) that my granddad bought to replace his team of mules. It is "easy to fix", is it something "I can work on" etc. etc. but that seems to be about all I can get done sometimes. Not to mention that I feel like I am risking my life most times I use it.

The other reason I bought Kubota is that my father in law owns 9 or 10 of them (maybe more?), most of which don't run any more. But the amount of abuse and neglect it took to make them not run was truly impressive! My intention is to not abuse and/or neglect my new tractor and hopefully my grand kids will replace it in 70 years saying "it is just too primitive and unsafe" or some such. My other comment on my new Kubota is that I really LIKE the low emission engine system. I get so tired of breathing diesel fumes on my in-law's tractors and my bigger Orange tractor doesn't make that kind of stink.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

I have a degree in electronics/electrical engineering and maintain automation systems in a manufacturing setting for a living. The last thing I want to do is repair them at home. My tractors will always be mechanically injected

I just bought my first electronic diesel, 06 ram but I have a 12V going into an obs ford. That engine is 27 years old and still has a lot of life in it.

 

[Williy]

it should be possible to copy the information like a computer and when something goes wrong format the drive and copy the information bck to the drive
should be able to do this with a laptop???

 

[Motorboatin]

This article says 20 states have bills in the works

As Tractor Monopoly Rolls In, Farmers Struggling to Keep Up


And this talks about the hacking

 

[5030]

If you drove that truck, you would love it.
Awesome snow plower. As fast as a gas big block.

Don't need a snowplow here. One of my M9's runs a 10 foot county plow on the front and am 84" blower on the back. Plenty enoigh snow removal equipment. Don't like a plow hitch on a pickup anyway. Hard on the front end components.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Was watching "Scotty" yesterday. Talked about the worst value in cars. One make actually has a whole entire dual exhaust, half of which isn't connected to anything at the motor. My point being. If the buying public is so utterly clueless about what they are buying, non of this complicted computer garbage, should surprise us, because the sensible/thinking people are vastly outnumbered and don't matter.

 

[Hay Dude]

Don't need a snowplow here. One of my M9's runs a 10 foot county plow on the front and am 84" blower on the back. Plenty enoigh snow removal equipment. Don't like a plow hitch on a pickup anyway. Hard on the front end components.

I was speaking openly to the forum that its a nice plow truck, not you specifically.
I’ve been plowing since 1982, never had any front end issues on the newer trucks.

 

[5030]

...and I was addressing you... Still don't like plows on pickup tricks. Hard on front suspension components. Been plowing for 30 years myself. About the same amount of time running commercial forage. So what. My view is, you want to plow snow, use a dump truck with a heavy suspension, not a 3/4 ton pickup, or a FWA tractor. The tractor has a capable front non suspension.

 

[Hay Dude]

...and I was addressing you... Still don't like plows on pickup tricks. Hard on front suspension components. Been plowing for 30 years myself. About the same amount of time running commercial forage. So what. My view is, you want to plow snow, use a dump truck with a heavy suspension, not a 3/4 ton pickup, or a FWA tractor. The tractor has a capable front non suspension.

I do use a 125HP tractor for plowing snow. I do residential and light commercial and lots of store parking lots. It’ll plow anything, but on residential work, its way too slow to make money unless the houses are on top of each other, and too hard on residential driveways. Gotta be real careful. Customers also don’t like the sound of a diesel farm tractor waking them up at 3am.:confused2: Farm tractor good for my parking lots or heavy snow. Dump truck same thing. Nobody wants one on their driveway. Way too clumsy for residential. Ill run circles plowing against a dump unless it was a big road or the snow went unplowed for 10-12”, then maybe it’s a contest or your applying miles of disgusting salt and need 5-10 tons of it to rust out everyone’s cars. :laughing:
The 3/4 or 1 ton pickup truck was born & designed to plow snow. I’ve never replaced a front end part on a pickup, because I don’t abuse them when plowing and have excellent plowing skills. Maybe you’re too rough on your equipment. :laughing: I’ll go on with my 3 employees plowing with pickups and an occasional farm tractor when we want to go slow, until I retire. Never found anything better for general everyday plowing of driveways, small lots or country roads. Won’t do a highway or 20” of snow left unplowed, but that’s about it and we don’t plow highways or make our customers go unplowed for that much snow. We plow with the snow, not when it’s done snowing.
I will let you have the last word as I’m out of this one., but leave you with this, over the last 38 years, I’ve used everything from all wheel drive dump trucks to backhoes, skid steers and farm tractors for plowing and at the end of the day, for most plowing situations, the 3/4 or 1 ton pickup, when operated responsibly is the best all around snow removal tool. . I dont need a keyboard tutorial on what’s best for me.
Have a great day :drink:

 

[Molalla1]

Just further confirmation that my little restored Ford 1920 is the best tractor ever, for me!
I can fix it MYSELF!!!!

Well your L48 ain't shabby fried . . .