Ricers vs R1 ags

[Neat 1500]

i am looking for some one that has tried both of these tyres as i am curious to know how well they grip vs how much damage they do, for instance my rice tyres grip well forward but destroy the ground under them. but in saying that they dont grip well in reverse due to the way the lugs are cut. i have ags (R1s) on the front but it is only 2WD (helps lots steering in the mud) but the ricers on the rear and am looking at replacing them with R1s. if there is minimal or no difference i wont bother. i could also cut my rice lugs down to look like R1s but how well does that work?

 

[clemsonfor]

i am looking for some one that has tried both of these tyres as i am curious to know how well they grip vs how much damage they do, for instance my rice tyres grip well forward but destroy the ground under them. but in saying that they dont grip well in reverse due to the way the lugs are cut. i have ags (R1s) on the front but it is only 2WD (helps lots steering in the mud) but the ricers on the rear and am looking at replacing them with R1s. if there is minimal or no difference i wont bother. i could also cut my rice lugs down to look like R1s but how well does that work?

If your on a lawn i would try them, they cant be as bad but im sure there close. I have no exp. though, and personally would leave them.

 

[Roonabeck]

What sort of surface are you on the most? Dirt, sand, gravel, turf, and how wet? The rice tires, as I understand, are optimized for mud.

 

[Neat 1500]

What sort of surface are you on the most? Dirt, sand, gravel, turf, and how wet? The rice tires, as I understand, are optimized for mud.

dirt, and a hack it up they do.....

 

[Roonabeck]

I ran across this comparison, and while it's not directly applicable to your question, there is a comment made near the end suggesting that deeper lugs do not help traction in normal soil conditions, and may in fact hurt traction some. Keeping in mind of course, that the data is being presented by someone trying to sell you something.

To get a definitive answer, seems like you need another 1500 :thumbsup: with ag tires on it, and a third tractor :thumbsup: with some ground-engaging implement.

 

[jtokc]

I have found that the turf tires I got from Hoye give me far better traction in loose sand, dirt, grass, gravel and any hard surface than I had with the rice tires. I tore up a lot of dirt and grass with the rice tires, but the turf tires have been much kinder to the surface.

 

[Ginormous]

I have R3 turf tires -- these are about the same width as my rice tires but with a turf-friendly tread. I have found that when using the R3s on grass going up a modest hill when it's slippery, I need to engage the locking differential occasionally, i.e., the traction isn't great on wet grass.

 

[clemsonfor]

I have R3 turf tires -- these are about the same width as my rice tires but with a turf-friendly tread. I have found that when using the R3s on grass going up a modest hill when it's slippery, I need to engage the locking differential occasionally, i.e., the traction isn't great on wet grass.

This seems different that the rice tires i got. Granted i really dont do much travel on wet yard grass, but the few times i have and any slope in my fields that i have i dont seem to slip, but i really dont have much slope that i would think would cause any tire to slip other than a bald tire.

 

[jtokc]

Short of cutting into the surface and tearing it up, traction is based on contact surface area. Turf tires give you more contact surface area. If the goal is to get the most traction without damage to the surface, turf tires win. You may get more traction in some conditions with ag tires, but the price for the traction is the digging in on the surface.

 

[Ginormous]

This seems different that the rice tires i got. Granted i really dont do much travel on wet yard grass, but the few times i have and any slope in my fields that i have i dont seem to slip, but i really dont have much slope that i would think would cause any tire to slip other than a bald tire.

Clemsonfor -- Not sure if you understood my post. I was talking about slipping when using the R3s not the rice tires. I haven't used the rice tires much yet...

 

[clemsonfor]

Clemsonfor -- Not sure if you understood my post. I was talking about slipping when using the R3s not the rice tires. I haven't used the rice tires much yet...

I know, i was saying i dont seem to slip in my rice tires. Then i started rambling about my topography and my ricers.

 

[deepNdirt]

I've had both tractors with rice tires and now with Ag-1 tires, they each have their own purpose, as mentioned the rice tires are designed for wet marshy grounds, I found that the looser i could make the soil when plowing the better traction I would gain with the rice tires, although rice tires can definitely tear-up the sod while the tractor is pulling up an incline or under torque, now when I got my other tractor with the AG-1 tires it was all new to me and had to re-learn how to gain traction, when trying to plow at what i thought was the same rate and speed I had been using with my other tractor & rice tires, I found it to do more spinning than plowing, I soon learn that I could slow the engine speed down and drop to a lower gear, the tractor started to dig in and pull the plow as it should,.... the Ag-1 are better as to not tear up the sod but still can if when needing to pull up hill, either type tire if only rolling across sod seems not to bother it, My lawn tractor with turf tries can do its fair amount of tearing up the sod if when tunning it sharply,

 

[Johndeere3720]

If you want better surface contact have you thought of some R4s? I have R1s om my Yanmar and even with those I wish they had better surface contact. You can see I almost got a set of R4s for my tractor but they were 1" to small and wouldnt work with the 4wd.