Restarting My '70 Nova Project

   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #481  
Looking great. I had one of my cars out yesterday after the long winter nap, and it sure helps make an old fella feel much younger again. Is this your priority project now, or have you got other stuff that is going to slow you down on this project ? Looks like you are getting very close to the finish line. I wouldn,t be able to sleep if I was in your shoes, knowing I was so close, but still couldn,t enjoy it, now that the warm weather is just around the corner. LOL
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#482  
I like the lighting in that photo. (y)

It didn't look that great when I took it, but with the work light hanging over the column and the phone's flash, I was surprised how well it came out.

When you finish this nova you'll be able to assemble gm tilt columns with your eyes closed! Don't give up your almost at the finish line. Nice job!!

Yep, it didn't take that long to do the job this time, and I knew every tool I needed to do it, so fewer trips to the tool box. But, it's not a tilt column, just a regular fixed one.

Looking great. I had one of my cars out yesterday after the long winter nap, and it sure helps make an old fella feel much younger again. Is this your priority project now, or have you got other stuff that is going to slow you down on this project ? Looks like you are getting very close to the finish line. I wouldn,t be able to sleep if I was in your shoes, knowing I was so close, but still couldn,t enjoy it, now that the warm weather is just around the corner. LOL

Yes, this is my primary project for now. The biggest steps to be finished up are fitting the rear bumper, changing the tail pipes, getting the trunk lid properly aligned, getting the hood on and aligned, cleaning up and installing the wheel and tires, racing stripes, vinyl roof installation and front and rear glass and trim installation.
I have a few more projects in the pipeline when the car is finished up (actually, a car project is never really finished, is it?), including a Radio Flyer wagon restoration, a Schwinn kid's bike restoration, JD mower deck rebuild, and repaint/powder coat the sheet metal and mower deck on my BX2230.
Yes, I'm really looking forward to getting the Nova out, on the road and going to cruise-in events. But, when it's ready, it's ready, and I'm not going to rush the job. It's been over 10 years since I last drove it, a little longer isn't a big deal.
Thanks for all the kind comments.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#484  
Let's just hurry up a little and get MY car done. Local car cruises start in 5 weeks here and I want to pick it up.
May 2nd is the first local cruise-in here, don't think I'll make it by then.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#485  
I still had some spray-on undercoating left in a can, so I shot a bunch of it into the bottom of the rear quarter panels for rust prevention. I still have a couple of other places I want to seal up, but I'm going to have to order another can as this one is just about empty.
I had bolted the rear bumper in place, and then tried to screw the license plate light in place, but it wouldn't go in with the rubber bumper/body seal in place. So, I took the bumper back off, mounted the light and cut a section out of the seal where the light mounts, filed out a couple of holes that were a little tight to get the bolts started, and bolted it back up again. Ran the light wire into the trunk, connected it to the harness and turned on the parking lights. And, it works.
I had forgotten to tighten the nuts on the adjuster link on the Cal-Track bars, so I adjusted them up to the right setting and tightened up the nuts. I try to check everything at least twice, just to make sure I don't miss anything.
The rear view mirrors had been laying in a storage bin on the bench, so I decided it was time to put those on now. The passenger's door had the existing holes, but I had to drill new holes in the driver's door as it's new. Got both of them mounted up and that makes a big difference in the side views of the car. Another item checked off the list. (y)
Went up on the storage deck and took a look at a couple of the tires and wheels to see just what condition they're in. It looks like I'm going to have to repaint the rims, as they have some light rust showing around where the rim and the web meet. I'll take the beauty rings off and see if I can sand them down or if I might have to get them blasted and painted or powder coated. They are the Magnum 500 style wheels instead of the Rally wheels and looked really good on the car when it was maroon, not sure how they'll look on a silver car.
I tried the cruise control yesterday, and it sort of works. The indicator light will come on and I can feel it pull the throttle open, but then it disconnects. I think the sudden change in speed with the driveline spinning freely makes it think there is a problem, so it shuts off. It'll probably work when it's on the road. I hope.
Did a little more looking, measuring and sizing up the tailpipe situation, and I think I'll pull the right side one off and test fit the new pipe to see if it's going to fit like I want it to. If it does, great. If not, I have another idea that might work, I'll see what happens.
One other thing made me laugh this afternoon, I was rearranging some stuff on the storage shelves up on the deck, and lo and behold in between a couple of boxes, there was the door hinge spring that got loose and shot off to parts unknown several months ago. I always figured I'd find it eventually, but I had no idea that it would have shot 30 feet away and land up there.

More Power, Scottie!

IMG_20240328_154650577.jpg
IMG_20240328_171918618_HDR.jpg
IMG_20240328_163623906.jpg
IMG_20240328_163655654.jpg
IMG_20240328_212040114.jpg
IMG_20240328_212050985.jpg
IMG_20240328_212815889.jpg
IMG_20240328_173420676.jpg
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #486  
I don't think you should do the vinyl top imo. It looks awesome solid silver . I would put the stripes first and see how you like it and then put the top if you still want it.
Want the vinyl top hold moisture in and cause rust over time? I know every old car I see that had vinyl would be rusted out around the windows. I assume it's from the top trapping water and moisture.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #487  
I,ve had many sets of wheels powder coated, and they have held up really well.
The powder coaters have excellent blasting equipment, and they did a great job cleaning up the wheels perfectly before powder coating them.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#488  
I don't think you should do the vinyl top imo. It looks awesome solid silver . I would put the stripes first and see how you like it and then put the top if you still want it.
Want the vinyl top hold moisture in and cause rust over time? I know every old car I see that had vinyl would be rusted out around the windows. I assume it's from the top trapping water and moisture.
Yes, the tops can trap water and lead to rust issues, but that was mainly on older cars like mine that weren't built with any longevity in mind. Newer, and replacement tops can be installed and sealed much better than they were from the factory back in the 70s and 80s, so I don't have any qualms about it. In fact, I asked the installed about that issue, and he said he makes them as water proof as possible, and should be good for many years if properly cared for.
I have pictures of silver Novas with and without black tops, and I I prefer the look with the top, but everyone has their own preferences. Also, I am trying to keep the car fairly original in appearance, and it did leave the factory with silver paint and a black vinyl top. Admittedly, the racing stripes would diverge from that theme, buy I like the looks of them, and if I do them in vinyl, they can be easily removed at any time.

100_2280.JPG
1969nova050.jpg


I,ve had many sets of wheels powder coated, and they have held up really well.
The powder coaters have excellent blasting equipment, and they did a great job cleaning up the wheels perfectly before powder coating them.
I have a local shop that does powder coating, and they have done a lot of items for me, John Deere sheet metal, tool bench, mail box post and some other miscellaneous parts, and they have always done a great job. Years ago, before they opened their shop, I had a shop in Elkhart powder coat the subframe for the Nova, which also looks great.
The only problem with the wheels is that while most of the wheel is argent silver, the areas between the spokes is a satin black, and painting or powder coating those areas involves a lot of masking to get it done correctly. They do make a masking kit, but it is only meant for painting, not heat resistant for powder coating. I'm going to clean the wheels up and see just how good or bad they look, and then decide what to do with them.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #489  
I had a similar wheel on a Challenger I restored years ago. I spray bombed the pockets and just let the overspray go wherever it wanted and then used a Scotch Brite to get the overspray off the spokes. It’s a pain no matter how you do it. The spray bomb paint didn’t hold up that well but I’d touch it up now and then.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #490  
Yes, the tops can trap water and lead to rust issues, but that was mainly on older cars like mine that weren't built with any longevity in mind. Newer, and replacement tops can be installed and sealed much better than they were from the factory back in the 70s and 80s, so I don't have any qualms about it. In fact, I asked the installed about that issue, and he said he makes them as water proof as possible, and should be good for many years if properly cared for.
I have pictures of silver Novas with and without black tops, and I I prefer the look with the top, but everyone has their own preferences. Also, I am trying to keep the car fairly original in appearance, and it did leave the factory with silver paint and a black vinyl top. Admittedly, the racing stripes would diverge from that theme, buy I like the looks of them, and if I do them in vinyl, they can be easily removed at any time.

View attachment 859517View attachment 859518


I have a local shop that does powder coating, and they have done a lot of items for me, John Deere sheet metal, tool bench, mail box post and some other miscellaneous parts, and they have always done a great job. Years ago, before they opened their shop, I had a shop in Elkhart powder coat the subframe for the Nova, which also looks great.
The only problem with the wheels is that while most of the wheel is argent silver, the areas between the spokes is a satin black, and painting or powder coating those areas involves a lot of masking to get it done correctly. They do make a masking kit, but it is only meant for painting, not heat resistant for powder coating. I'm going to clean the wheels up and see just how good or bad they look, and then decide what to do with them.
I'd drool equally over either... ;)
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#491  
I had a similar wheel on a Challenger I restored years ago. I spray bombed the pockets and just let the overspray go wherever it wanted and then used a Scotch Brite to get the overspray off the spokes. It’s a pain no matter how you do it. The spray bomb paint didn’t hold up that well but I’d touch it up now and then.
Chevy, Chrysler and Ford all used variations of the Magnum wheel.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #492  
Vinyl top? Boo, Hiss. :cool:
Living in rain county I am predisposed to not liking them. But they look fine.
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #494  
I like the non vinyl top per OP's pictures above. Mostly becuse it reminds me of my prior 73 stock, plain jane Omega hatchback in solid bright yellow. Back then I liked the color, now don't know. Like the silver, though. Jon
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #497  
Seriously, though, when you get it going and head to a cruise-in, let us know. I'd try and stop by if possible. Thanks. (y)
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project
  • Thread Starter
#499  
Well, I finally got the exhaust finished up. The new tailpipes sort of fit, well, not really. The end that attaches to the outlet of the muffler, extended too far forward, so I had to cut ~3 inchesoff and reswage the pipes. I had bought a tail pipe expander a while back and I used it to swage the right side pipe, and went a little too far, so I had to put some slits in it and use a heavy band clamp to squeeze it back down. Then the bend that takes it up over the rear axle wasn't sharp enough, so I made a couple of slice cuts to get that corrected. Then the pipe was pointing out away from the car so it wouldn't fit under the body, between the rear fender and the spring, so I cut the pipe, modified a band clamp and used it to hold the pipe pieces in the correct orientation so I could weld it up. That finally got the tailpipe exiting in the right place under the bumper. The welds were not pretty to I smoothed them up and used some Scotchbrite type pads for an angle grinder to polish up the dull finish on the pipe.
Then repeat the process on the driver's side pipe. Them, when I was swaging the second pipe, the bearing on the pipe expander went to hell. They used a tapered rolled bearing about the size of the outside bearing on the front wheels of the Nova, which was completely wrong for that application. It didn't have anywhere near the thrust capacity required and disintegrated when I was about a 1/16" from the pipe being swaged large enough. I was able to jury rig it and get the job done, but it's a piss poor design. Yesterday I got a regular thrust type roller bearing and modified the tool to use it. I haven't tried it yet, but it has to work better than the original bearing as it has about 10 times the thrust load capacity.
I needed to use some kind of mount to hold the pipes in position at the rear, so I bought a couple of mounts from Summit racing, welded them to the pipes, and fabbed a couple of brackets to bolt them the the trunk floor. Last thing to do was to slide the chrome, angle cut tips on, mark their positions, cut the tailpipes to the right length and clamp them in place.
I think I have had the tailpipes on and off at least six times during the process, but I got 'er done.
I fired it up, and it's still too loud for my taste, so I'm looking for some mufflers that will tame it down a bit. I don't want to be one of those guys with an obnoxiously loud car running down the road.
So now, my next item is to see if I can get the parking brakes hooked up and working. Because I installed a disc brake conversion on the rear axle, and it has staggered shocks, that is, one in front of the axle and one behinds it, one caliper sits in front of the axle and one sits behind. Due to that positioning, the cable to connect to the actuator on the driver's side caliper exits to the rear, making it a problem to hook it up without having a big long, loop of cable housing hanging back there. I've been studying that problem since I first did the conversion, and I think I finally came up with a workable solution, by using a different caliper that will let the cable exit over the top of the axle instead of under it, allowing the cable housing to bend under the axle and go forward to it's anchor bracket by the front spring mount. The only catch is that the bleeder on the caliper won't be on top, so I'll have to take the caliper loose and swing it up about 90° to bleed it, but I can live with that. I was working on that this afternoon, and I think it's all going to work, I just need to get it all finished up.
After that, I'm going to get the tires and wheels down from upstairs and assess what needs to be done to them to get them looking presentable. They may just need to ble cleaned up, or may need to be repainted, we'll see. Once they're done, it's time to mount them on the car and get it on the ground. At long last!

Only about 15 more items on the to do list.

IMG_20240401_160324681.jpg
IMG_20240401_161048887_HDR.jpg
IMG_20240401_195909283.jpg
IMG_20240405_170256832.jpg
IMG_20240406_143319455_HDR.jpg
IMG_20240407_141242169.jpg
IMG_20240409_173036099_HDR.jpg
 
   / Restarting My '70 Nova Project #500  
I'm really liking this build. Nice job
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

Rooster Weathervane (A59231)
Rooster...
2021 Billy Goat F902H Walk-Behind Debris Blower (A59228)
2021 Billy Goat...
2019 MQ POWER WHISPERWATT DCA-25 GENERATOR (A58214)
2019 MQ POWER...
2020 PETERBILT 567 (A58214)
2020 PETERBILT 567...
Amada M-3060 Mechanical Metal Shear (Japan) (A59213)
Amada M-3060...
2019 KOMATSU D155AX-8 CRAWLER DOZER (A60429)
2019 KOMATSU...
 
Top