Recommend a rod for overhead please...

/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #21  
Like shieldarc said, keep a short arc length. A big plus is stick your rod straight in the rod holder, and with good gloves of coarse, in your opposite hand put your rod between your index and middle fingers like a pool stick. It will help you big time controling your rod. Not much pressure between your fingers tho, as you need to feed the rod up. And usually just when the rod starts getting too hot, it is short enough to control better were you can open up your fingers and slowly slide your hand out of the way.
 
/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #22  
Bring some extra cover lenses for your helmet. Overhead stick eats them and "you can't weld if you can't see".

A clear face shield AND goggles reduce risk to eyes when grinding overhead. Correct PPE will make your work much more comfortable.
 
/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #23  
i would rather work on a piece of equipment that is sitting nice and level and safed out.

try keep your body out from directly underneath the weld, especially with 7018. i wouldn't use 6010 on that, the rational being that it may be a low-alloy steel.

preheat, especially in the cold, and try to pack some sort of insulation or something against it to slow the cooling process as much as possible.

keep in mind you will be applying warping forces to the plate.
 
/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #24  
I assume that is a pretty thick member. If you can get to the opposite side it would be good to vee both sides rather than one side. If the cracks go all the way through; can you block the two pieces so they wll not move? If not you may have to put on a temporary splice to hold it in place. Make sure you cut out all cracked/flawed material. If you don't, you may build the same flaw into your new work. Be sure to grind out all bad materials. If it is say 1" thick material grindig the vees(s) can be tedious. I would burn out with a scarfing tip on the O/A cutting head and then grind it bright. On the vees(s) leave as much thickness in the bottom as the diameter of the rod. I would use 6010 for the first pass or 2 passes if it is over 1/2" base material. and finish up with the 7018. 6010 is easier to control in the bottom of the groove and get unflawed full penetration. As shieldarc said; keep a short arc for good puddle control. It never fails that if you have a minor flaw in the root pass it will carry through on every subsequent pass. That is why pipe welders always are meticulous on the root pass (always use 6010 unless the approved procedures different) and even grind it well before starting the next pass. A leak in a 24" pipeline can get you sent back to the hall.

Ron (old UA pipefitter)

DITTO: 6010 best first rod choice. You can adjust heat so it kinda freezes making it easier to control and is a deep penetrating rod. Then cap with 7018 .JUST RETIRED UA FITTER WELDER TOO
 
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Thanks guys, I just picked the welder up. I'll update on how it turns out. It's gonna take 2hours prepping I'm sure.
 
/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #26  
Thanks guys, I just picked the welder up. I'll update on how it turns out. It's gonna take 2hours prepping I'm sure.

Needless to say... Pictures!!
 
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Geez my arms are tired! I just finished up by the light of my iPhone! It turned out pretty good, not my prettiest work but it'll do. Man whoever welded on it previously shoulda hired it out, pretty bad! I took a couple pics when I started but as I saw daylight fading fast I didnt have time or light for pics at the end. I'll snap some more tomorrow. I burned about 5lbs of rod and used up 3 grinding discs getting the cracks and junk welds out. Thanks to all for the tips! I'll add one of my own- put your rods on top of the welder by the exhaust to keep em warm! Btw wish the bobcat was mine, welds almost as good as the old Dialarc!
 

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/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #29  
That 4th picture, I think I seen Ray Charles working on that! :laughing:
 
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Yeah tell me about it! It was actually alot worse than the picture shows. I'm kinda surprised the thing didn't fall off already. i ain't claiming to be a welder by trade or anything but some of those old welds were pretty lame attempts. I just about burned up my grinder cleaning em out. It actually was a little tough between the rust, mud, awkward position, and fixin their bobos. Also the frame is tubular but the bottom piece is thinner than the sides. At first I was too hot but once I got my amps good it went smooth. The little dozer is back in business!
 
/ Recommend a rod for overhead please... #31  
At first I was too hot but once I got my amps good it went smooth. The little dozer is back in business!

happy to hear you survived the performance. :laughing:

Cub,

Where do you live?

yes, do tell... what local?
 

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