Re: Tire ballast choice?

[Looking4new]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

I just found out that my dealer screwed me. I specified that I wanted Rim Guard in my rears. He put in tubes and calcium. Well, live and learn. I will be removing the calc in the summer and putting in RG myself.

 

[PapaPerk]

I just found out that my dealer screwed me. I specified that I wanted Rim Guard in my rears. He put in tubes and calcium. Well, live and learn. I will be removing the calc in the summer and putting in RG myself.

That stinks. Did he charge for rim guard?

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

That stinks. Did he charge for rim guard?

i hope not. cacl and water is the cheapest/heaviest ( together) ballast you can get...

and there may be implications down the line if you don't keep up on maintenance.

 

[Looking4new]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

That stinks. Did he charge for rim guard?

Yes. $398.oo for tubes and ballast. The paperwork never did specify RG. I will be having a chat with him in the spring when I take a sample to him.

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

Yes. I will be having a chat with him in the spring when I take a sample to him.

i think i'd cll for caht now!

BIG money difference.

at least he tubed them...

mke sure you keep up on any leks. if you do get a lek. brek it down and wash it and make sure rim paint stys intact. that's the biggest defense.

PS... get some vlve stem cores made for ccl. otherwise first time you air them or check them the springs will die and they will leak immediately.

 

[Looking4new]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

at least he tubed them...

mke sure you keep up on any leks. if you do get a lek. brek it down and wash it and make sure rim paint stys intact. that's the biggest defense.

PS... get some vlve stem cores made for ccl. otherwise first time you air them or check them the springs will die and they will leak immediately.

I will be calling my tire guys on Monday. They are closed tomorrow except for emergency call outs.

 

[DarkBlack]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

Boy Soundguy, bad day? You sure do offer a lot to the forum but you sure do get wound up easy if anyone ask you for clarification. I didn't see the new member disputing you...just asking what kind of temps you have experienced.

Go ahead, have at me.

MarkV

What a dick

Got to agree.Many of his posts seem to be aimed at painting one's counter views as ignominious as he possibly can make it... I try, to avoid direct conversations.

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

hope they make it right($$) for you.

 

[RG1]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

According to Rim Guard, RG weighs just about the same as calc/chlor-

Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast Product Information

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

costs more, and non corrosive...

 

[Looking4new]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

RG1, PM coming your way.

 

[treeline]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

just get iron.!!! you know liquids are always regreted in hindsight...respectfuly,my opinion,

 

[Soundguy]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

$$$$$$$$$$

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

just get iron.!!! you know liquids are always regreted in hindsight...respectfuly,my opinion,

WEll that definitely is your opinion. For instance, my tractor is only rated to have 2 weights per wheel at 95lbs per weight. 400lbs of ballast for a 80 hp tractor is almost laughable. The loader manual suggest that a set of wheel weights, fluid in the tires to the tune of 1500lbs and a 2klb counterweight is required at a minimum for correct ballasting. There is no way to get enough iron on the wheels to be ballasted correctly without exceeding the OEM's ratings.

 

[suebear]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

Just adding to this, on my Kubota the rear tires are filled with washer fluid at about 80% fill because fluid does not compress like air, if you fill 100% and hit a hole/large rock or something that compresses the tire the washer fluid could blow the tire off the rim. just food for thought.

 

[Looking4new]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

According to Kioti, wheel weights are NOT available for the CK27.

As for calc. vs R-G. I would rather pay the big bux for R-G than later down the road having to replace the rims. I had to do that with my old Farmall C. I ended up getting them welded and rebuilt for about $100.oo each. Rim Guard is easier on animals' feet, too.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

From my 563 loader handbook.


MINIMUM ballast for Non Self-Levling Loader
Option 1: 1918lb ballast box + 992lb rear axle + 0 fluid
Option 2: 2205 lb ballast box + 198lbs rear axle + 1500lb fluid


Both of these options are for regular duty use but the heavy duty use only changes the tire load index requirements.

When you consult the tractor manual, I am only able to run two iron weights per wheel for a max of 190lbs per wheel. Without fluid and the rear wheel weight, there is no possible way to meet the minimum requirements.



I apoligize if I came off hot tempered in my last post as well.

 

[oosik]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

I had CaCl in the rears of my previous tractor and fought the corrosion it caused continually. My current tractor has Rim Guard and it is a true blessing. No leaks, no corrosion and no other problems. This adds 720 lb/tire.

 

[buickanddeere]

Re: Tire ballast choice?

In an ideal world all the ballast would be external cast iron.................but...............
Diluted windshield washer fluid is an acceptable compromise if using liquid ballast.

 

[Diamondpilot]

My dealer filled my rear tires with ECO-friendly antifreeze and water. He won't sell a tractor with FEL, without ballast in the Rears.

Back when I did mine I got a 55gal drum of -20 WWF for $38. That and a $10 valve I filled it with a pump in 2 hours. My tires each held 20 gallons so I used the other 5 gallons in my vehicles.

Chris