rachet tie downs-tractor hauling

[rollbar]

I was wondering if any of you guys use rachet tie downs to haul your tractors on trailers.
I have a 4520 jd w/400 cx loader, a 16' 7000# trailer w / double brakes. I use two
10,000 lb 2 1/2" rachet tie downs instead of chains and boomers. I loop the webbing around the front axle and hook to front of trailer. am i safe? thanks for any comments

 

[JiminGa]

I use 4 ratchet straps on my 2305, but I don't know if I'd trust them on a 4x20 series, that's a lot more weight to hold down.

 

[ddivinia]

They are used to haul a lot of heavy loads. I would want to make sure they will not tear.

Also, I prefer the ones with the chain ends (they seem to not come undone).

D.

 

[nmu98]

I use them all the time, but they are very large ones. I use 4 with axle straps on each corner. I use them to haul my Jeep also and its nice not to have a bunch of chain around. I would not haul your tractor, or mine, around with only 2, no matter the size. There is more that can break on these compared to chain binders, and if you have a rachet going bad, they can slip.

 

[LBrown59]

****Read Dargos thread /post about straps. *****

I use them all the time, but they are very large ones. I use 4 with axle straps on each corner. I use them to haul my Jeep also and its nice not to have a bunch of chain around. I would not haul your tractor, or mine, around with only 2, no matter the size. There is more that can break on these compared to chain binders, and if you have a rachet going bad, they can slip.

 

[LBrown59]

I was wondering if any of you guys use rachet tie downs to haul your tractors on trailers.
I have a 4520 jd w/400 cx loader, a 16' 7000# trailer w / double brakes. I use two
10,000 lb 2 1/2" rachet tie downs instead of chains and boomers. I loop the webbing around the front axle and hook to front of trailer. am i safe? thanks for any comments

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/53683-ratcheting-tie-downs-broke-transit.html

 

[LBrown59]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/89913-ratchet-straps.html

 

[nmu98]

****Read Dargos thread /post about straps. *****

Mine are more than 2" and are rated for much more than that. I have 4" and they are made to do what I am using them for. Anything ratted for 10K should not be allowed on the road when using them for a 3-5K tractor. The forces that could ack on the tractor in hard breaking, bumps, or a crash would be 10 times that. Long story short, just like with chains, use the right stuff, and don't take an example from someone who used the wrong stuff to say that straps should never be used.

 

[nmu98]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/89913-ratchet-straps.html

Again, that thread shows straps with 3-6K ratings. The wrong stuff.

Would you use 1/8" chain to tie down a tractor. No, you use the right size chain.

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

I was wondering if any of you guys use rachet tie downs to haul your tractors on trailers.
I have a 4520 jd w/400 cx loader, a 16' 7000# trailer w / double brakes. I use two
10,000 lb 2 1/2" rachet tie downs instead of chains and boomers. I loop the webbing around the front axle and hook to front of trailer. am i safe? thanks for any comments

I don't know what state you are from but you might want to check with your D.O.T. because in some states they are not legal.

 

[zionview]

I must be old school- I use ratchet straps for light loads, I must have 20 of them, but I use 1/4 inch welded chain and chain binders for my TLB. I just don't know how ratchet straps would react in an emergency situation, and I really don't want to find out.

 

[ddivinia]

Now, I would highly recommend axles straps. People haul race cars all the time like that.

My trooper buddy in Texas says they are legal. They either go by the rating on the label of the strap. If there is not label, they say 1,000lb per x inches. I don't remember X. So, I look like an idiot here. I know they are legal.

Texas Commercial Drivers Handbook:

On flatbed trailers or trailers without sides, cargo must be
secured to keep it from shifting or falling off. In closed vans,
tiedowns can also be important to prevent cargo shifting that
may affect the handling of the vehicle. Tiedowns must be of
the proper type and proper strength. The combined strength
of all cargo tiedowns must be strong enough to lift one and
one half times the weight of the piece of cargo tied down.
Proper tiedown equipment must be used, including ropes,
straps, chains, and tensioning devices (winches, ratchets,
clinching components). Tiedowns must be attached to the
vehicle correctly (hook, bolt, rails, rings).
Cargo should have at least one tiedown for each 10 feet of
cargo. Make sure you have enough tiedowns to meet this
need. No matter how small the cargo, it should have at least
two tiedowns holding it.

 

[tjkadar]

I use chains.... the same type of system they use to lock down helicopters to the deck of ships. Good enough to strap a Blackhawk to the deck of a rolling ship, good enough for my tractor.

 

[zionview]

Last night a woman in a pickup was coming off an exit on I-80 near here, and one of the 1" ratchet straps failed that was holding one of two 4-wheelers on the truck. It ended up in a ditch about 80 feet away from the exit. Nobody was hurt. My 1 inch ratchet straps are rated for 480# and 500#. I've seen 4-wheelers strapped down with tie-down straps with the friction style ends on them. I wish the state troopers would stop a few of these. It might save somebody's life.

 

[LBrown59]

I use them all the time, but they are very large ones. I use 4 with axle straps on each corner. I use them to haul my Jeep also and its nice not to have a bunch of chain around. I would not haul your tractor, or mine, around with only 2, no matter the size. There is more that can break on these compared to chain binders, and if you have a rachet going bad, they can slip.

2 hain't enough/

 

[LBrown59]

am i safe?

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[LBrown59]

Mine are more than 2" and are rated for much more than that. I have 4" and they are made to do what I am using them for. Anything ratted for 10K should not be allowed on the road when using them for a 3-5K tractor. The forces that could ack on the tractor in hard breaking, bumps, or a crash would be 10 times that. Long story short, just like with chains, use the right stuff, and don't take an example from someone who used the wrong stuff to say that straps should never be used.

So then what size and what rating straps should he have been using ? ?